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"Hi My Name Is" / Favorite Red

Posted by yoshiyoshi40541, Nov 1, 2009.

I was messing around on Domaine547, somehow stumbled onto Snooth, and dove right in. Long time beer/cocktail drinker, but wine manages to slip in now and then. Just wanted to say hi to everyone, but instead of the usual "hi I'm new/welcome newbie" thread, I thought any repliers should also toss in their favorite red wine, and maybe a little tidbit on why. I'm pretty clueless, and would love some recommendations. However, I'm also a poor UCLA college student, so go easy on my pocketbook please ;) therein lies the challenge...oh, and, Happy Halloween!


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Reply by MarioRobles, Nov 1, 2009.

Yoshi... my laptop is about to die (battery) welcome to Snooth... you'll love it! and will love wine soon... just hand in there.

Reply by Eric Guido, Nov 1, 2009.

Welcome aboard, but wow, what an easy question that will probably drive most of us nuts simply because it's so difficult to nail it down to one wine. I figure I'd keep it simple, one of my favorite affordable reds right now is, 2006 Château Pesquié Côtes du Ventoux Terrasses.
You can probably grab it for about $12.99

I'm a big lover of Italian wines but the one above is pleasing to many different palates.

Reply by deconut, Nov 1, 2009.
This thread should be helpful to you - and welcome aboard!!!

Reply by yoshiyoshi40541, Nov 1, 2009.

Thanks for the welcomes and the recommendations and the links! I'm still trying to figure out how to use the site, but is there a way to look up stores that carry the wines in my searches through a zipcode? I love that the search pulls up websites that I can order it from, but some of them are on the east coast, and I'm confident that I could find them locally in California....Patience is a virtue, but perhaps not my strongest suit....

Reply by deconut, Nov 1, 2009.

Right on the home page at the top, click on the word wine. A list will open and you can pick stores and then you can navigate your state from there - hope this info helps!!!

Reply by deconut, Nov 1, 2009.

You know, I might be wrong about that - Mark is the guy to ask - check out the site feedback forum and post there - he will know what to do!!

Reply by kylewolf, Nov 1, 2009.

Hi, I'm Kyle, and I am lucky/unlucky to say I can pinpoint my favorite red. A nice aged Tempranillo from Rioja.

Reply by mbugbee, Nov 2, 2009.

Yoshi, BevMo is a great place to find all sorts of stuff here in the LA area. There's one at Santa Monica and La Brea in WeHo.

Reply by Nathan P, Nov 2, 2009.

When I was kinda poor and lived in L.A. I went to
Silver Lake wine:
It's a boutique wine store, and they carried a modern-style Montepulciano called Quattro Mani and for $6 I could not do any better. I miss it. -Nathan

Reply by yoshiyoshi40541, Nov 2, 2009.

Deconut - I couldnt really figure out...but my default is just writing down all the recommendations and just heading down to a local wine shop in the area and hope that I find some.

Kylewolf - Tempranillo? I'm so knew to wine, its as if you're speaking a new language. Is there a specific brand/label/vineyard/year [can you tell I'm reaching for whatever correct terminology applies] that you favor? :)

Mbugbee - I LOVE BevMo. I feel like a kid in a candy store whenever I go there. I'm originally from Hawaii (where we can be very wine/beer import deprived), and the closest thing we have to that would be Costco. I always want to take advantage of BevMo's 5 cent deals but never know which one to buy. I recently purchased a Kenwood 2005 Merlot with that deal, a little peppery but I liked it!

Nputens - Thanks for the tip and the link, I'll try to check it out the next time I'm in that area :)

Reply by kylewolf, Nov 2, 2009.

well, the more affordable favorites of mine, are Conde de Valdemar Rioja. As most traditional Riojas, there are three levels of wine, Crianza, Reserva, and Gran Reserva. The difference lies in the amount of time the wine spends in the oak barrel, and overall aging before being marketed. Another good, inexpensive rioja that I enjoy is Montecillo Rioja. Both of these can be found, for the most part in the $12 (Crianza), $18-20 (Reserva), and $30 (Gran Reserva) ranges. They tend be fruit forward, but with heavy oak and darker flavors (soil, tobacco, some chocolate, etc.) but that is not necessarily true for all riojas.

Reply by MarioRobles, Nov 3, 2009.

Yering Station Yarra Valley Shiraz Viognier... any vintage; they know how to make this blend... you find it here in Australia for around $15 USD so it would be a similar price in the USA or $20 at the most... fantastic wine!

Of course, I have more 'favourites' so it is hard to limit it to one.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Nov 3, 2009.

Hi Yoshi,

Welcome to Snooth!

Where in Hawaii are you originally from. I spent years on Maui myself and am looking forward to returning next summer for a fabulous wine weekend!

Reply by GregT, Nov 3, 2009.

Yoshi - Tempranillo is a grape. Rioja the region. Many producers in Europe identify wine by region instead of by the grape varieties that are in the wine.

For example, some regions that start with B are: Bordeaux, Burgundy, Barolo, Bierzo, Beaujolais, Brunello, Barbaresco.

Most of those regions also require that to be called by the specific name, the wine be made of certain specific grapes. Why? Because over the centuries, the people who controlled the politics of the area, usually a local nobleman, fixed it so that all the wine had to be made from whatever they grew and everything else was outlawed. Sometimes today you hear people try to justify the restrictions by claiming that the approved grapes were found to be best-suited to the area, but that's of course not true. It's sort of like telling apple producers in an area that they can only grow Golden Delicious apples, not Granny Smith. Maybe Granny Smith didn't even exist when they made the law, so how would they know the apple won't be good in the area?

So you can simply say "Rioja", and people will assume that the blend will be mostly Tempranillo, because there is very little white wine produced there. Or you can say "Brunello" and they will assume that it's the local clone of Sangiovese. On the other hand, you would never think that your Rioja has any Sangiovese or that your Brunello has any Tempranillo because those wouldn't be allowed. In the case of Burgundy, you need to specify whether it's red or white.

Outside of Europe we don't do that. We generally name the wine by the grapes that are used or by some fantasy name that the producer came up with. For example, he can call his wine "Opus One" or "Grange" and then you just have to find out for yourself what grapes are used. It really shouldn't matter all that much - what really matters is whether the wine is good.

Good luck tasting your way thru thousands of wines.

Reply by D9sus4, Nov 3, 2009.

Yoshi, Since no one has mentioned them yet, and you're in SoCal, Trader Joes is a great place to find good wine on a budget. Ask anyone in their wine department for suggestions, or do a search on Snooth.

Just one more tip, IMHO you get more bang for your buck with inexpensive Zinfandels, Syrahs, and Tempranillos or Malbecs, than you do with other inexpensive reds.

And welcome to Snooth!

Reply by yoshiyoshi40541, Nov 3, 2009.

kylewolf - Thanks for the breakdown, those are all affordable ranges for me and sound perfect. I do enjoy darker flavors and am eager to try a Rioja.

MarioRobles - Sounds like a mouthful of a name, and I hope I have no problem finding it here. Please don't feel restricted to name just one of your favorites, haha!

Gregory Dal Piaz - Thanks for the welcome! I was born and raised on Oahu, but Maui is my favorite island. Were you more on the Kapalua side or Waimea? When I visit, I usually go to those locations. I'm envious that you get to go next summer!

GregT - Thanks for all the information, I didn't know I'd need to specify red or white, that's a really helpful tidbit since I'm generally not a fan of the white. And my journey thru thousands of wines sounds ambitious, but I'm always up for a challenge. :)

D9sus4 - I do hear great things about the Trader Joes wine staff. I'm not a fan of Zin, or at least, haven't found one that I liked. I think I just may not enjoy chilled wines in general. I have enjoyed several Syrahs, am looking forward to trying Tempranillos now that I've had a crash course from this post, and I don't know what a Malbec is....but I will search for one? Haha :)

Reply by dmcker, Nov 4, 2009.

Yoshiyoshi, should I assume you're of Japanese descent? The phrase 'yoshiyoshi' in Japanese has a myriad of uses--from an enheartening phrase as you're getting ready to take on a large task, through use as a phrase to calm or quieten someone down when they're upset or excited, to loving words when petting a favored animal, to.... I'm in Tokyo, so I hear it a lot.

I may be reading too much between the lines, but when you say "I'm not a fan of Zin, or at least, haven't found one that I liked. I think I just may not enjoy chilled wines in general" are you perhaps merely referring to white zinfandel? That's a nasty beast and I can't ever remember having a good version. The reds being discussed here under the caption 'zinfandel' are (usually) well crafted reds.

And do you ever make it to Kauai or the Big Island? Have spent loads of time there (as well as Oahu and Maui), though more in Kauai. Agree with you about how most parts of the islands are more geared to other forms of alcohol than fine wines...

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Nov 4, 2009.

Hey Yoshi,

I was on the Kapalua side. Lived everywhere from Lahaina town to Kapalua infact. Maybe you'll be able to join us there next summer?

Reply by gooselee4, Nov 5, 2009.

Hi Yoshi,
Don't feel bad! I'm new to the wine world as well! I love tasting new wines and the opportunities are endless & there are some great, fair priced wines. I was recently recommended Staccato, a Malbec/Cab Sauv blend made from organically grown grapes in Argentina. $8.99 at Heinens! Great wine-great bargain. Very easy to drink, smooth w/ alot of flavor. Would make a good starter red wine if you don't drink alot of red. Good luck!

Reply by D9sus4, Nov 6, 2009.

Yoshi, As dmcker has already pointed out, I was reffering to Red Zinfandels, not the sweet pink stuff that was popular in the 1980's. And Malbec is a wine grape, originally from Hungary, made popular in France and now the principal export varietal of Argentina


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