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Posted by SheenaMcInnes, May 7, 2014.

Hi there!

I will begin by saying I know absolutely nothing about wine! Which is why I am on this site begging for help!! Lol. I would really like to get my sister and her fiancé a bottle of wine that can age for 25 years. So my questions are: What kind of wine (I don't even have a preference) and what is the most reasonable price range? I figure I will just post this for now and after hopefully receiving some advice I will be able to get more specific!

Thank you anyone and everyone!!


Reply by dvogler, May 7, 2014.

Hi Sheena,

Do you know if your sister and/or her husband drink wine, or if they have any preferences?  By the cellaring ability you stated, it will be a big red, just my kind!  I wish I could promote a BC wine for you, and there are plenty that are very big and nice (and expensive), but none have proven that kind of longevity.  There are some that are showing ten years plus, but you want a guarantee that when they open it, it will be great.

There are plenty of Bordeaux's that would do perfectly, then look to Napa/Sonoma for a classic cabernet sauvignon.  It's pointless for me to rattle off a bunch of names, but you need to go to a good liquor store (or two) and ask if someone who works there knows wine (not a bearded guy who wears a lumberjack shirt) and they should be able to help you out more specifically.  Don't buy right away, go home with a few names and do your homework , or better yet, come back and tell us..then we know what you can get.

Reply by SheenaMcInnes, May 11, 2014.

Thank you very much!! My sister and her fiancé like wine, but I'm not 100% sure on their preference or if they have one. I think they would be happy with any classic red wine!

The problem with where I live is that probably every liquor store I go into will probably have a bearded guy working haha. But I will give it a try anyway. I wonder if it is possible to order online?

Reply by GregT, May 11, 2014.

It is possible to order online and that's pretty much the only way I buy any wine for myself these days. But the bearded guy in the lumberjack shirt may know what he's talking about too.

Or he might be a hipster. I'd be careful if that were the case. Check the pants. If he's a skinny guy wearing skinny black jeans and if he has black framed glasses, he probably is. Then he'll steer you to whatever the currently fashionable grape is, probably something lean and green. Don't get that. If he's just a big guy selling beer, he won't help. But if he's a friendly guy who loves wine and lumberjack shirts, you're good.

But then again, you aren't.

What are you going to do with the wine for 25 years? If they put it on top of the fridge or in a closet, buy them a bottle of whiskey instead. The wine will be ruined. If they have a cellar or a nice cool place for it that doesn't get much higher than say, 60 degrees, that's a better choice. If they heat their house, anyplace in the house will be well over that for most of the winter. If they don't heat the house, it's probably going to be in the 70s or 80s most of the year and sometimes higher. Unless they have a truly underground cellar, a basement isn't all that great either, since most of them are at least partly above ground and they will hit temps in the high 70s in the summer.

So unless they have a place to keep the wine, it's a nice idea but may not be practical. You don't want them to open it in years to come and discover that they have a bottle of vinegar.

If you still want wine, I would get them a bottle of Madeira. You can't really ruin that wine. It's already been heated and oxidized so it's not going to be harmed by more heat and oxygen. That's the only wine like that however. It comes in dry versions and sweet versions and my hunch is that you'll be better off with sweeter one. Get Malmsey or Bual. Malmsey is good because that's what they used to drown the kids in Shakespeare's Richard III. They're all good to drink though!

Those names though, are based on the grape varieties used and the vinification, they're not the names of producers, so you can find Bual from many different producers.

There are cheap bottles and I can't say anything about those. But a good bottle will run you several hundred dollars these days. However, they can open it and drink a little every year. Recently we drank some from the 1920s and earlier and it's still just great. And the bottles had been open for many months.

Good luck finding someone who knows much about Madeira and good luck on your project!

Reply by SheenaMcInnes, May 11, 2014.

Wow thank you! :) 

So maybe the 25-year-wine idea is out. But is it possible to get a bottle that may last ten year if my sister doesn't have a cellar?

Reply by EMark, May 11, 2014.

Here are a couple of ideas.  Terra Valentine winery in Napa makes a very nice red blend called "Amore."  Not surprisingly, they use "Italian" grapes for this.  They have another blend of red grapes called "Marriage."  Both of these are very good wines.  However, what I would suggest is that you tell them to enjoy it on their first anniversary (because of their "iffy" storage circumstance).

The other neat thing about these wines is that they come in very attractive bottles with the labels painted on.  And the Terra Valentine logo is heart-shaped, which might be appropriate for the occasion.

It appears that the winery does not make "Marriage" anymore, but previous years' examples are available from various on-line purveyors.  Google "Terra Valentine Marriage" or "Terra Valentine Amore" and go to the winery site or to

Good luck and congratulations to the couple.

Reply by dvogler, May 11, 2014.

You're correct Greg.  The bearded guy in a lumberjack shirt may very well be a level 3 Somm.  But I know where Sheena is and it'd be like buying wine in North Dakota (golly, she's due north!). 

Sheena, you'd have to check and see if you can have wine delivered in Sask.  Alberta yes.  BC no.  Now, you could go to a wine (liquor) store there and they can get stuff if you don't see it. 

Ask your sister if they have friends who might have a wine fridge or cellar..then you can get them whatever!

Reply by outthere, May 12, 2014.

Bumping the hotel spam down

Reply by GlfWid0, May 17, 2014.

Well...hi! I buy wine based on the airmiles most of the time and tend to prefer pinot grigio or merlots even though they are quite different. Pelee Island makes some of my favorites and tonight I am trying Fat Bastard probably for the first and last time.

Reply by SheenaMcInnes, Jun 26, 2014.

Hi everyone!

I apologize for the late response, I really appreciate all of the great advice from people I don't even know! Very kind of you! Thanks and I'll let you know how it turns out lol

Reply by rckr1951, Jun 6, 2016.

Well?  How did it turn out?  You never said red, white, sweet, dry - their preferences.  Let us know.

Reply by dvogler, Jun 7, 2016.

oh man....

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