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Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz

Heading to Piedmont

Posted by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 5, 2012.

I'm leaving today for two weeks in Piedmont.

I've got some 24 winery visits scheduled before the major foucs of my trip, the grand tasting that are the heart of the annual Nebbiolo prima event. I'll be tasting about 65 2008 Barolos and 2009 Barbarescos each morning for 4 days straight, giving me  good idea bout the nature and quality of those vintages.

My itinerary will bring me to the following cellars:

Burlotto

Marcarini

Giuseppe Rinaldi

Bartolo Mascarello

Scarpa

Vietti

Giuseppe Mascarello

Bartolo Mascarelo

Schiavenza

Cappellano

Giacomo Conterno

Guido Porro

Brovia

Castello de verduno

Brezza

Canonica

Oddero

Roagna

Franceso Rinaldi

Boasso

E Pira

Bocchino

Vallana

Cascina Ballarin

Anybody have any questions for any of the producers? I hope to be recording video during my trip and posting it daily, along with future reviews of all the wines, the vintages, and to a certain extent the producers but kknowing what you guys might want to hear about can make what I write and the questions I ask more pertinent, and that's what I'm here for folks, getting your questions answered!

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Reply by dmcker, May 5, 2012.

Looks like a lot of work, yet with plenty of tasty stimulation for the senses and pride in quality of production throughout that environment. I'd feel busy and heading towards foie gros territory if I tried to reach those numbers in a month!

I'll answer a question with some questions:

  • What are the cellars (and individuals) that you're most looking forward to visiting (although I can perhaps guess some of them from your past prolific posts about them)?
  • What do you anticipate finding, ahead of those tastings, in the 2008 and 2009 vintages? and, 
  • What issues do you anticipate will be most popular for discussion this year amongst the producers and tasters?
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Reply by Alexander Lawrence, May 5, 2012.

Hi Greg, my wife and I are planning a 3-week trip to Italy in the fall.  I would be interested to learn of any wineries that you feel are best suited for a visit by traveling wine geek/vacationers. Especially based on your research. Thanks.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 5, 2012.

What are the cellars (and individuals) that you're most looking forward to visiting (although I can perhaps guess some of them from your past prolific posts about them)?

Hosestly, all of them, tough to pick favoties, each has the potential to wow me.

What do you anticipate finding, ahead of those tastings, in the 2008 and 2009 vintages?

2008 from barrel appeared to be my king of vintage, eleegant, aromatic, and beautifully balanced, while 2009 seemed to be bigger, brawner and more modern for lack of a better word. Both have the potential to produce outstanding wines. I think my tastings will prove this out but I am keeping an open mind.

And what issues do you anticipate will be most popular for discussion this year amongst the producers and tasters?

Climate change, whether it be heat or rainfall, and lack thereof, those seem to be the most important issues these days, now that the use of barrique has been moderated.

 

Alexander, I've written before about my trips to Piedmont, and this time through I intend to update my thoughts, so you should have plenty of options to consider. Do you have a rough itinerary planned yet?

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Reply by Lucha Vino, May 5, 2012.

GDP - I would be interested to hear what the vintners recommend for the drinking window on both vintages.  It seems that most wines from Piedmont are made for ageing so curious to hear from the wine makers on their recommendations.

Sounds like an awesome trip!  I am looking forward to reading more about it.

Cheers

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Reply by dmcker, May 5, 2012.

Thanks for the quick response. Your answer to my third question was understandably predictable, especially in the context of recent vintages, and the same for #1 (hey, you have the makings of a politician in you yet!). Number two's gets down to the nitty gritty, I suppose, and will be looking forward to all the notes you can share.

Bon voyage! Hey, I've heard Italians say that, too...  ;-)

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Reply by Lucha Vino, May 5, 2012.

Here is a non-wine question...

The Giro d'Italia will be in Verona on May 9th heading South and then back in Northern Italy beginning on May 18th.  What do the wine makers think about pro cycling and who are their favorites to win the Giro d'Italia this year?

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Reply by JonDerry, May 6, 2012.

Yes, well played in answering D's first question, there really is no other answer ; )

How about the modernization of Piedmont, how does the winemaking style compare to what's going on in Bordeaux? If Bordeaux is now an 8/10 on the modern, new world style, then where does Piedmont sit?

If there is a mix of some more modern, or new world style producers compared to strict old world, what percentage of producers are leaning modern, and what percentage are staying true to traditional methods?

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 8, 2012.

Getting into the meat of things today. Visited Castello de Verduno yesterday, they showed a standout 2007 Rabaja worth tracking down, then a pair of Roero producers who did not convince me that Roero needs much more of my attention.

Also in Roero a fairly long disucssion of Arneis and yeasts has just reinforced my burgeoning suspicion that Arneis just is not that interesting. Another grape I will have a limited relationship with.

I've just come from an AM tasting at Burlotto, super high quality all around though the 2010 Barbera Classico and 2011 rose Elatis are absolutely delicious. All 2008 Barolos are showing some toughness, and reticences, but are quite fine. The Monvigliero is a bit tough on the palate but the nose explodes with strawberry, cinnamon and truffle, built on base note of wild thume and black olive. It's tougher to assess than the 2007 at this time last year but it's definitely a wine to buy, as was the 2008 Cannubi, which chows more freshness than the 2007.

I'm heading off to Brezza and then a visit at Canonica, so more impressions are to come!

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Reply by Anna Savino, May 8, 2012.

have a great time! if you get one free hour come visit me in Saluzzo! I was just in Barbaresco at Rizzi this Saturday and it was an AMAZING winery visit experience. 

 

I would like to know more about the "wine tourism" aspect of these wineries. Do they expect to make big sales when customers come in for a visit? Do they feel there is a need for more visiters/visability, etc.

 

Thanks Greg...Hope to catch you around while you are here!

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Reply by WineAnthem, May 17, 2012.

Any of them produce Timmorosso? If not, I highly recommend you squeeze La Colombera into your itinerary, that's a  native variety that will not dissappoint you.

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Reply by Anna Savino, May 17, 2012.

I absolutely love TIMORASSO! My favorite is Cascina I Carpini :) in province of Alessandria. That's mostly where they come from I believe: Tortona Hills. Great acidity and minerality in that wine. Nice suggestion!

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Reply by Brewtown Brian, May 17, 2012.

Greg,

I'm very interested in the new Porro vintages.  I have three '04's and one '05 in my VERY modest cellar.  Guido and Lopez have become friends as they sit side by side in my basement.  I hope the warmer growing conditions haven't forced some traditional producers to taste more New World.

I'm also very interested in Vallana.  Never tasted, only read about, but I've heard just the mention of the name, Vallana, could bring tears to the eyes of an old-school Northerner.  My budget dictates that I move outside the big-B's for Piedmontese nebbiolo, so their spanna and gattinara are on my radar.

God speed.  Be well.  Drink well!

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Reply by luca chevalier, May 18, 2012.

......."'ve just come from an AM tasting at Burlotto, super high quality all around though the 2010 Barbera Classico and 2011 rose Elatis are absolutely delicious" ...Dear Grag, i'm sorry to say to you that The term Classico cannot be used reffered to Barbera, in Fact there is not a classic area inside The Area were barbera is Produced, LIke for example in Chianti or Amarone were you have a big area of production of grapes and a small area inside tha is the storical area of production that you can call (according with the Laws) Classico...so if you meant "made in the traditional way" (reffered to Barbera) is better if you call it "Tradizionale"....otherwise somebody is going to Jail you ;-))))  .....joking...

I see that Roero is not convincing you

If you Have the occasion to go in Canale and try the Roero "Bric Aut" Riserva Generaj i'm courius to know your opinion about that....

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 21, 2012.

Hey Brian,

Guido Porro is making super consistent wines. They sometimes come off as a bit fruity in their youth but firm up nicely over time. I think the 2006 was another wine worthy tracking down thought he 2007 is worth skipping, and the 2008 might be a bit of an under performer but the 2009 and 2010 seem right track on track and worth waiting for.

There are plenty of increasingly new world examples of Piedmontese reds, both due to growing condition as well as a conscious effort on the part of producers to go for ever-ripe styles. The northern appellations are a good fix for both the rising prices and the spoofy styles that are becoming common in the Langhe.

Oh, Luca,

Barbera tradizionale allora! With all this talk of Barolo Classico it's easy to get carried away.

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Reply by Eric Guido, May 23, 2012.

Hey Greg, I've been loving the videos.  You really took it up a notch this year.  How long before we see a summation of your visit in print?

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 23, 2012.

It's going to take weeks, but I will say the usual suspects were the stars. Loooking back a little the 2007 Monprivato is arguably the wine of the vintage and a brilliant stuff.

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Reply by Wisequeen Donna Jackson, Jun 1, 2012.

Hi Greg, as usual we were treading the same paths, piemonte, Barolo,, Barbaresco, just wish I had time between visits to write!! my superTuscan / Maremma week was so interesting, followed by  my very full week in London  which unearthed more jewels. Now back in my office in Italy hope to put out some articles. 

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Reply by luca chevalier, Jun 1, 2012.

Hi Donna ...you really live in italy? from your profile i read Lomazzo that is very close to Legnano,where i'm living..:-)

Ciao

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Reply by mannks, Jun 5, 2012.

Give the Burlotto wines some time...they'll show great in a few years. I still have 1999, 2000 and 2001 of Cannubi's and Monvigliero's at home. Fabio is just a great wine maker...there regular Nebbiolo-Barbera is a great wine also!

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 5, 2012.

Yes, I tend to agree with you.

 

http://www.snooth.com/articles/top-12-barolo-producers-part-ii/#!slide=6

 

http://www.snooth.com/articles/a-dinner-with-the-wines-of-burlotto/

 

 

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