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Snooth User: shsim

German Wines!

Original post by shsim, Feb 21, 2012.

Hello Snoothers!

Anyone has any opinion or reccomendations on German Wines? I only know the Affentaler monkeys (They have nice bottles!) and Blue nun. So my knowledge is miserable. Please share your experience! :D

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Reply by RBrumer, Feb 24, 2012.

Most German rieslings will age for quite some time.

There is a lot of acidity in thses wines.

Many of these vines are not really in soil, they are in rocks, basically.

Sturdy components.

Reply by BigWoodenSpoon, Feb 25, 2012.

Rudi and Terry bring in amazing stuff (I've had some 1990 J.J. Prum that was pretty darn spectacular)as well as our local Berkeley guy Jim Mayer who runs Age of Riesling.

Here's a few more possibilites of the K&L website:

2010 Josef Leitz Rüdesheimer "Eins Zwei Dry" Riesling Trocken (Dry): $17

2010 Dönnhoff Estate Riesling: $20

2009 Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt Josephshöfer Riesling Kabinett (Previously $26) : $17 

2010 Fritz Haag Estate Riesling: $20

2009 Muller-Catoir Riesling Trocken (Dry): $20

2010 Schloss Schönborn Riesling Trocken (Dry): $17

2001 Schloss Schönborn Rüdesheimer Berg Rottland Riesling Erstes Gewächs: $36

2008 Becker-Landgraf Spätburgunder :$22 (Love their Rieslings, so I think their red's worth a try)

I went for the drier wines since you listed that as your preference, but I urge you to branch out and try a Spatlese or Auslese from any of the producers listed above and previously. The expression and balance of friut and acidity can be utterly stunning and the RS (residual sugar) many times isn't that noticable.
Here's a few Austrian ones as well:

2009 FX Pichler Oberhauser Riesling Smaragd : $50: Considered one of the best

Oh, and the Austrians are making a number of definitely drinkable reds.

I wanted to comment on the price difference situation between the US and Germany. There are only a few importers that work with German wines and those bring in quite a limited selection and quantity. Supply & demand plus shipping costs = higher prices stateside. However, if I went to one of my local producers here in CA and grabbed a bottle, it would probaby cost me much less than if it was shipped all the way to Germany. Besides, we know the truly delicious local wine will never be available for export, so we make do with what is available : )

Reply by shsim, Feb 26, 2012.

Hello BWS,

so i visited a few wine stores and was surprised at the lack of German wines. There are maybe 5-7 at each place.. My last stop was Whole foods and they had 4. I got one from there... Weinkellerei Römerhof Riesling 2009 Trittenheim-Mosel (Mosel Valley) which I just added to the database because I could not find it..( I reviewed it!). The winery is not in the database too! Well I am guessing it is not that great or something. it was 9.99 or the 750ml bottle. I could not find anything that you mentioned! Maybe I should just go online and do shipping... I rather do local if possible though.

Well I definitely enjoyed the Romerhof though! Although it is my first riesling and I dont know much about it yet. But wow, its so easy and simple that its incredible! I could easily settle for that although im sure as I taste more.. that might change as I understand the grape better! Now I am motivated to taste more riesling! And it goes well with food because of the nice contrast! i doubt a sweet one would work but the medium sweet/ dry or dry would be wonderful! Brings out the savory of the food. I am truly impressed. Haha even with this humble wine I had.

Now I am going to hunt down those you mentioned! :D Thank you so much! And next time I head up, ill pay K&L a visit!


Reply by BigWoodenSpoon, Feb 27, 2012.

@shism: Glad you liked it and now the fun of exploring beings!

Hey, where in S. CA are you? San Diego? If so, the San Diego Wine Co. has several different quality producer possibilites and the Wine Sellar & Brasserie looks to be an interesting place to check out.   

Most grocery stores aren't going to have a good selection of nice Riesling, so it's off to the wine shop with you. : ) Just tell the folks there that you're looking for something that is Trocken, up to a Kabinett weight and ripeness level and see if they have any recommendations. Finding allies that are passionate about your favorite wines can greatly enhance your experiences.

Reply by shsim, Feb 27, 2012.

Yes, I am in San Diego! Yes, i actually just went there for the Argentinian tasting this past weekend! They have 7 from Germany. The link is as follows...

6 rieslings and 1 pinot. When I was there I wasnt sure what to pick... so i didnt. I wanted to do more research before I buy! Is there anything interesting in the selection they have? there is one Kabinett..

JJ Christoffel 2010 Erdener Treppchen Kabinett Riesling

yea.. Groceries are not the best places but I enjoy browsing them anyway and how each store differs in their selection.

About finding allies.. it is difficult already to find people who are into drinking wines.. hopefully soon! How do you know about San Diego wine co anyway?


Reply by BigWoodenSpoon, Feb 28, 2012.

@shsim: I found San Diego Wine Co. on the 'Net. The JJ has the classic label style, so its probably worth a try.

I also found something at the local BevMo: Robert Eymael Monchhof Riesling '09
The Monchhof Estate Riesling is a solid wine showing elegance with a fine racy profile; loaded with attractive apple and slate flavors: $14.37 (Club Bev)

My local wine bar owner is from your neck of the woods. Next time I'm in I'll ask her the best place in your area to pick up a good Riesling. : )

Reply by shsim, Feb 28, 2012.

@ BWS: sounds good! Ill pick it up the next time i head there! And ill check out the one at Bevmo. I was wondering if you might know this or someone else might... Are there any varietals that are native to Germany?

Cool thanks for helping out! :D

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