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Snooth User: fibo86

Found the concord here in Australia

Posted by fibo86, Jan 31, 2009.

I have found a wine exclusively made from the Concord grape, from New York and a kosher wine.
Now I understand why you can't find a great deal of it as a straight variety. It's interesting although as I've got nothing to compare it to I'm not too sure what I'm supposed to be tasting.
On my treck through the store I also found a Mavrodaphnie, again no idea and was wondering if anyone knows if I'm supposed to chill either of these wines. No one could help me in the store (often they have no idea)

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Reply by Rodolphe Boulanger, Feb 1, 2009.

Concord is used mostly for the production of grape juice, grape jelly and kosher wine. Since it can survive the harsh winter temperatures of western New York and the Great Lakes region, I believe it is still the most planted grape in the eastern US. Its wines often are anything but light on residual sugar which goes some way towards concealing their grapey & foxy aromas and flavors - remember this is Vitis Labrusca, after all. Serve chilled!

Mavrodaphne is a whole other matter. Classical linguists might remember that "Mavro" is Greek for black. This grape, when named on the label, is never found in a dry wine - it's more like a port-style dessert wine. Is your example from the island of Patras? I hope so, becauase that's the best. This should be an old school, rich, thick and powerful brown dessert wine that conjures up images of the ancient warriors and maidens of the Iliad. Don't serve chilled!

It sounds like you have developed a real yearning for vino-esoterica! You must start keeping track so that you can soon join the Wine Century Club http://www.winecentury.com/membersh...

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Reply by fibo86, Feb 1, 2009.

I do see what you mean about residual sugrs in the Concord (and it just so happens to be Kosher) and not too sure of it though-mind you I did try it warm....
The Mavrodaphne is from Patras it's something different from what I'm used to so I'll keep revisiting until I understand all of the flavors a bit better.
That list is an excellent form of wines to experience as well as keepin up with all of the wines I've tried .
Thanks for all the info RB.

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Reply by John Andrews, Feb 2, 2009.

I'm trying to be part of the Wine Century Club. I'm more than half way there but have a lot to get to. However, there will be a world wine tasting here in SF this month that I'm hoping to use to get me well on my way. :-)

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Reply by fibo86, Feb 2, 2009.

we have a few of those and I'm looking forward to it as well.

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Reply by Rodolphe Boulanger, Feb 2, 2009.

I'm expecting full tasting notes fibo!

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Reply by fibo86, Feb 3, 2009.

oh! ok

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Reply by Nalu Kai, Feb 6, 2009.

Where is the concord found in Australia?

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Reply by Rodolphe Boulanger, Feb 6, 2009.

I think he meant that he found it in a shop.

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Reply by fibo86, Feb 7, 2009.

Sorry guy's haven't been trying my wines as have not been 100% will get to tasting and putting up my notes from tommorrow.
Yes, RB's right, it's at the shop I hate going to the most Dan's

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Feb 8, 2009.

Funny how things work out. There's sometimes a reason to go where you'd rather not.

Waiting, patiently, for the notes Fibo!

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Reply by fibo86, Feb 8, 2009.

Will post some notes tonight! Also have some Serbian wine although it's all written in Serbian and they couldn't tell me anything at the store so that will be interesting.

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Reply by fibo86, Feb 8, 2009.

Ok, Kedem-premium-Cream red Concord.
A.B.V 9%
Royal Wine Corp, Bayonne, NJ-USA

Colour/ Clarity
Brown,Brick hue/ Opaque

Aroma
almost a sherry like aromor, musty, stewed berry,stewed prune,fruity, cordial, delicate mushroom and slight wet wool (mild smell of grannies hair spray) (although smelt this wine warm and could smell nothing but wet horse blanket, great deal of difference)

Flavor
Lots of residual sugar, quite fruity- ruhbarb, raspberry, blackberry, prune, chocolate (some earthy flavor that I can't quite grasp),raisin, Cream Sherry type finish quite long and slight delicate aniseed at the tail end.

In conclusion this is a wine for the sweet tooth, I'm sure that there's a place for this wine.
I now can understand why it was used in cold duck, it would have made an interesting addition to a sparkling red instead of a traditional dosage.

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Reply by Philip James, Feb 9, 2009.

Fibo - if you need any Serbian translated we can help you with that (really!) - we would just need a photo of the text.

Wow, what a random wine - Bayonne is about 2 miles from Manhattan, and its where many of the large East Coast distributors are, but thats not anything ive seen before.

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Reply by Rodolphe Boulanger, Feb 9, 2009.

Philip - You clearly haven't been in NY long enough (and/or dated enough Jewish girls), Royal Wine Corp. is one of the northeast's legendary producers... of Kosher wine.

http://www.royalwines.com/kedem_tra...
http://www.royalwines.com/kedem_pre...

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Reply by fibo86, Feb 9, 2009.

@Phillip I have to get another digital camera, as I lost one at a tasting (note to self-LEAVE camera around your neck). So I won't crack it until I get another so at the bare minimum I can understand what I'm drinking.


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