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- For the love of wine.
My wine thought of the day... and this might be a hard question to answer. Mostly because we may all really be winos at the end of the day:
If wine did not carry the alcohol content and threat of 'overdrinking', yet held the same characteristics of fruit and terroir and complexity, would you still drink it?
I've thought about this one a lot... want to know others' thoughts. Cheers!
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1136 - Reply by dmcker, Sep 14.
Very hard to imagine how wine would taste without the acidic, preservative and other characteristics of the alcohol in it. I don't drink near-beer so don't know if an analogy between it and alcoholic beer is appropriate. Am also curious if the purported health benefits of the drinks would bear out in non-alcoholic versions.
But back to the question. If the drink could taste like a well made version of a Bordeaux chateau, or the product from a first-rate California winery, etc., etc., then yes I would drink it. I would most likely not want to pay the same price as I currently pay, and, frankly, would miss the buzz and how that buzz contributes in a social context. In short, I could enjoy such juice, but not as much.
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0390 - Reply by GregT, Sep 14.
yes I would still drink it. If you taste freshly pressed juice, or juice that's been on the skins for a while and was just racked off, you sometimes like it better than wine. And in some cases, it's not going to make good wine anyway and is much better as the juice.
Of course, you wouldn't age it because then you'd have, well, wine. So you never get any of the additional complexity but I think juice is just fine. To the original question, IF it still had the complexity, that would be better. But since the complexity comes from the fermentation, oxidation, and aging, you can only get that in the hypothetical situation proposed.
As far as the health benefits, I thought the antioxidants at any rate were in the dark skins, just as they are in blueberries, black currants, etc. Other than those, I think that alcohol itself is supposed to confer some kind of benefit, although I find that notion rather suspect.
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1738 - Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Sep 14.
Sure I'd drink it, maybe mix it with a little vodka now and again but in all honesty when I'm sharing wine with friends I appreciate the alcohol for it's affects.
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30 - Reply by basilwino, Sep 15.
I would put Vodka, Gin or Rum in it and serve it up like a Grape-tini.
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3027 - Reply by Philip, Sep 15.
ouch, thats a fantastic, if brutal question!
I like the responses saying a dash of vodka would become a prerequisite. I'd still drink wine either way, but spicing it up would become an important part of the ritual.
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3 - Reply by emmalee777, Sep 15.
hmmm... I would still drink it as I enjoy the taste. However, I truly appreciate the kick that wine gives with the alcohol & wouldn't like to think of it without that!
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1136 - Reply by dmcker, Sep 15.
GregT, yes I've been skeptical, too, about some of the supposed health-related benefits of alcohol. However, the studies do continue to trickle through, and beyond the benefits of wine we hear about those from beer, and even harder stuff. It's not always easy to tell who sponsors these studies, or their detailed methodology, since most of what I've seen is from the popular press and I haven't made a concerted effort to track things down to the originating journals in the so-called scientific press.
I have wondered, though, from my own personal experience about whether there might not be something to it. Japanese live perhaps the longest of any nation on earth, according to the statistics we're fed, yet it's definitely not because their mainstream medical system, emergency medical care, exercise-related mores and behaviors, or several other customs and practices are better than those in other countries.
Nearly two thousand years ago, a Chinese explorer/ambassador to one of the largest kingdoms in Japan at the time (on the island that nowadays is called Kyushu), reported back to the emperor of China that Japan had paid tribute and was thus now a colony (actually, all that had happened was that the queen and her court had merely returned gifts in response to gifts from the Chinese side). He also reported three distinctive characteristics and behaviors of the Japanese. One was that they were shorter in stature than other peoples he'd encountered in East Asia, another was that they put a lot of effort into fashion and makeup, and the third was that they drank a lot of alcohol. So much has changed over the last two millenia, but it seems several things have stayed the same.
I've often wondered if it wasn't the Sake drinking tradition in Japan, perhaps together with the other stress-relieving practice of Japanese-style baths, that has helped contribute to Japanese longevity.
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1136 - Reply by dmcker, Sep 15.
Sorry, but I clicked 'approve' before remembering to add that I am, of course, talking about drinking in moderation. Perhaps one of the reasons it's easy to be skeptical about claims for benefits from alcohol consumption is because we've all seen or otherwise know of so many horror stories that ensue from excessive drinking...
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331 - Reply by Eric Guido, Sep 15.
The alcohol in the wine accentuates the flavors of the food. Same reason tomato sauces with a little wine added in will taste more like Tomato than sauces without it. It chemically reacts with our foods. I know I would never pure alcohol free wine into my Risotto.
Otherwise, the occasional buzz is nice.
I like wine for what it is, not just the favor.
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3 - Reply by Nicki Gig, Sep 16.
If it holds the same complexity, culture behind it etc, yes I would still drink it. Of course everyone likes a good buzz from wine too (and your lying if you say you don't) - alcohol is a key component... Wine is also about how it brings people together, friends, families, making memories... would that still happen?









