Wine Talk

Snooth User: JonDerry

Dream Wine

Posted by JonDerry, Jun 4, 2013.

There are many wines I'd like to buy if money weren't an issue. Here's one of them:

2010 Beaucastel Hommage a Perrin - Made from 70% Mourvedre, 10% Syrah, Grenache, and Counoise. 500 cases produced. 

Some IWC text: Bright ruby. A drop-dead, room-filling bouquet evokes black raspberry liqueur, incense, anise and lavender, with smoke and herb overtones. Sappy and penetrating, offering deeply pitched but lively dark berry and cherry flavors and an exotic touch of candied flowers. Fine-grained tannins come up with air and give grip to an endless, fruit- and mineral-dominated finish. This remarkable wine would be at the top of my Chateauneuf to-buy list this vintage if I had the resources to swim in such waters.

1 2 next

Replies

41
2328
Reply by outthere, Jun 4, 2013.

My dream wine? It's my birth year wine. '61 Chateau La Mission Haut-Brion or maybe a Palmer or a LaTour Grand Vin. I know, dream on!

20
2493
Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 5, 2013.

"1963 Bordeaux wine was bad when it was bottled and time has only made it worse."

Burgundy: "This vintage was a very poor one, with most of the producers not producing anything at all, and the best of the rest now well past their prime."

"The year 1963 was a mediocre vintage for Italian wines from Piedmont and Tuscany."

My problem with dream wines, other than the fact that other than Tokaji and Port, it was a poor vintage  in my birth year, is that I have a hard time getting past the law of diminishing returns on any luxury good, and I feel quite guilty with that sort of indulgence.  Every time I think about what I would drive if I had unlimited funds, I think, I'd buy a cheap car and use the rest of the money to fund tutoring or healthcare or something for someone who wasn't as fortunate.  On the other hand, I'm not Peter Singer and if you summed up all the bottles I buy/drink/own beyond just the utilitarian, I'm probably good for a Domaine Leroy, if not a DRC. 

I think curiosity would have me drinking a DRC R-C just because I really wonder what makes a Burg at that level special.  Of course, it would have to be out of their cellar on site with the owners just to be sure it wasn't a Rudi K bottle. 

In fact, I think I can get that CdP for you at a pretty good price, JD, as long as you are willing to ignore the smudges from my copying machine and the Stelvin closure. It came directly from the suitcase... I mean cellar.. of a famous Asian collector with impeccable provenance (but you are purchasing it "as is").

Really, if we are dreaming, how about going back in time to really appreciate the bottle that woke you up to wine in the first place, like a '68 BV I had when I was about 15.

75
2278
Reply by JonDerry, Jun 5, 2013.

DRC, and birth year wines would also be on my list. Putting that kind of money into wine, I guess that's where buying direct or trusting your retailer really comes into play.

Fox, I understand the guilt you outline more than the argument of sacrificing many cheap wines for a great one. Still, the ideal is that you can follow your passion while still helping others who are less fortunate.

1
107
Reply by edwilley3, Jun 5, 2013.

I love Mourvedre.  That is all. 

75
2278
Reply by JonDerry, Jun 5, 2013.

Then you'll love the Hommage a Perrin ; )

There are other members here with an affinity for the grape.

238
454
Reply by duncan 906, Jun 5, 2013.

I am curious about First Growths and Grand Cru Burgundies but they are horrendously expensive.For the money I would expect fireworks and dancing girls as well.I just would not spend hundreds on a bottle.I would be really upset if I did not like it

152
1801
Reply by napagirl68, Jun 5, 2013.

Ok you old-wine experts  (not "old" wine-experts!)... what is the best birth year wine for me?  Knowing what you happen to know about my preferences/palate from this site?

1968 is my birth year.....   From my quick google, looks like it was a BAD year in France, and decent in Italy.  Since I am half Italian (Tuscan descent) and half German,  any recommendations??

75
2278
Reply by JonDerry, Jun 5, 2013.

Well, the only wines that can live that long tend to come from Spain...you could always try Barolo or Burgundy as an alternative, but the prices figure to be up there.

152
1801
Reply by napagirl68, Jun 5, 2013.

Well, the only wines that can live that long tend to come from Spain

Wow, can you make a girl feel OLD or what???  LOL, kidding!!!  Thank God I've survived all the other wines that have died a tragic death!

I am not a old-wine seeker by any means; I was just curious, since another in the thread started posting about birth year wines.  For my little CA palate, I would love be able to source more of the 2008 sonoma coast LIOCO pinot noir.  Perhaps that's my dream wine for now.  Wake me up in a year, and I might be having a different dream :-)

75
2278
Reply by JonDerry, Jun 6, 2013.

Sorry NG!

Shouldn't have said survive...but I'd guess Spain is the best bet. Fox and I have both marveled at late 60's BV's...the one I had was about 10 years ago, but it was passively stored, and the bottle was littered with little cork pieces upon opening, but it was still glorious. 

Update: Flickering has the '68 BV Georges de Latour for around $200, a steal!

There's also some CVNE and Lopez de Heredia in the $350 - $500 range

 

152
1801
Reply by napagirl68, Jun 6, 2013.

Thanks, JD!

 

20
2493
Reply by Richard Foxall, Jun 6, 2013.

That very BV was the epiphany wine for me, I believe.  I was probably 14 or 15 when I had it, sometime around 1978, if I had to guess.

75
2278
Reply by JonDerry, Jul 7, 2013.

One for the bucket list. I'll be a bit older when it's eventually opened.

41
2328
Reply by outthere, Jul 8, 2013.

Dude! Top shelf there.

36
21
Reply by MetteinCoMo, Jul 11, 2013.

Interesting topic! Does anyone know what a good wine from 1980 would be (my birth year)? DUNCAN 906: I'm with you on the First Growths! But I might have to wine the lottery first... Has anyone here ever visited any of the "growth ranked" vineyards in Bordeaux?

75
2278
Reply by JonDerry, Jul 11, 2013.

I'm 1980 born myself MC, and surprisingly I haven't had anything from my year yet.

For domestics, it seems Ridge Monte Bello might be the best play..,its also available and doesn't cost a fortune ($129.99 at JJ Buckley). There may be others from CA still holding up, but you can't expect much from them if you do grab one.

Barolo from Piedmont Italy is known to age about the longest of any wines, along with Spanish Tempranillo, but for good producers you're looking at lots of $$$, then there's Burgundy and that's even more $ for the good stuff. Supposedly it wasn't a good year for Bordeaux, so you might want to save your money if you were thinking of a 1st growth ; )

I'll do some more looking...it's about time I grabbed some birth year bottle's for myself.

36
21
Reply by MetteinCoMo, Jul 11, 2013.

Jon, good luck finding your 1980 birth year wine! Keep me updated, and perhaps I'll follow in your footsteps...

75
2278
Reply by JonDerry, Jul 11, 2013.

I'm a little envious of the kids born in 1989 and 90, so much to choose from and still drinking well now for their 23rd and 24th birthdays.

36
21
Reply by MetteinCoMo, Jul 11, 2013.

Oh yes, to be young again... and to have favorable birth wine years. They have it too easy, it's not like when we were their age!

41
2328
Reply by outthere, Jul 11, 2013.

Not a birth year wine I can afford although '61 was a great year.

1 2 next



Continue to the end of the thread to reply
Back to Categories

Top Contributors This Month

324443 Snooth User: outthere
324443outthere
132 posts
680446 Snooth User: JonDerry
680446JonDerry
93 posts
125836 Snooth User: dmcker
125836dmcker
71 posts

Categories

View All





Snooth Media Network