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Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz

Dinner in LA? June 13 or 15.

Posted by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 21, 2012.

I'm heading to LA for a dinner with Numanthia on Thursday June 14th, hopefully I'll see some of you there, but if anyone is up for dinner on the day either before or after that day let me know. I'm making plans soon so I just want to line something up before b uying the tickets!

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Reply by EMark, May 21, 2012.

Greg  I would be very interested in meeting you and other Snoothers.  There is something of a cloud over my June schedule (family responsibilities), but, right now, I would say that the 15th is better than the 13th.  Regardless, see what other participants favor and draw a line in the sand.  I will try very hard to be there.  Also, am I correct in assuming that I may bring my wife along?

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Reply by Etty Lewensztain, May 21, 2012.

I would love to join Greg! Would be great to meet you. I'm open on June 13th. The 15th I'lll be out of town.

-Etty

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Reply by JonDerry, May 21, 2012.

I can do either at this point, looking forward to it.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 21, 2012.

I may have to do double duty. Was there talk of a little Pinot-off West Coast vs. Burgundy?

 

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Reply by JonDerry, May 21, 2012.

There was some talk, but it may have died over the past few months though I'm still down if there's interest. Would also be happy to explore other regions/ideas like Rhone, Barolo, Sangiovese, etc. 

If Fox can make it, I'd be happy to break out the Beaucastel's (89,98,07) that I've been sitting on.

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 21, 2012.

Well, let's make a plan. I can ship or swap wines with folks over there so I can come prepared for just about anything, Any ideas for a good venue?

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 21, 2012.

So where should I stay? I've got a dinner at the Boa Steakhouse in West LA but that's my only obligation so far.

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Reply by dmcker, May 21, 2012.

Hey Greg, talk to Jon about AirBnB!  ;-)

Would love to make it for a whole range of reasons, but can't this time. Do post a post-mortem, though, so virtual imaginings can bloom...

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Reply by EMark, May 21, 2012.

I also recall initial discussion of a Pinot Noir/Burgundy event.  I can contribute some California Pinot Noir.  In the interest of clarification, however, are we talking about two events, or would the Pinot/Burgundy thing be integrated into the dinner that you have proposed to start off this topic?

Regarding a hotel, since your planned dinner is at Boa Steakhouse, I did a quick i'net search and found there are two local Boa Steakhouses:  one in Santa Monica and one in West Hollywood.  I think that if you looked for a hotel in the Santa Monica, West L.A., Westwood, Beverly Hills areas, that would probably work for you.  I'm an "inlander" (I swear it is not contagious.), and my westside knowledge is very very out of date.  Perhaps somebody, like Jon D., has a recommendation on a westside hotel.  If you find that your Numanthia dinner is at the West Hollywood location, you might want to consider the Roosevelt Hotel in Hollywood--a very cool Art Deco building that was completely refurbished fairly recently.  My wife and I did enjoy a very nice stay there a couple years ago.  I don't think I would recommend the Roosevelt, however, if your dinner is at the Santa Monica Boa.

I am going to give thought to a diiner venue.  Again, I don't live in that area, but I may be able to ask around.

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Reply by dmcker, May 21, 2012.

I know a successful restaurateur based in West LA/Santa Monica/Pacific Palisades who has a number of places in different genres. I can try to reach him (he travels a bit due to involvements in Japan and Europe) if anybody's interested. Just let me know.

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Reply by dmcker, May 21, 2012.

If you're thinking of doing a pinot dinner, someone should try to grab a bottle or better yet a mini-vertical (if the budget's there--hey those library bottles are aged to drink now!) from the Joseph Swan offer from Rarewineco that was just publicized in their May newsletter.

Back when, Swan was the second CA pinot noir (after Chalone) and the first Russian River version that made me feel good about pinot's prospects on the West Coast. His arrival there was a watershed event, serving notice and drawing so many others into the fray. And the rest is history, as someone like outthere knows very well.

Some of their bottles can be very special.

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Reply by outthere, May 21, 2012.

As the Swan flies that winery is about 3-1/2 miles NE of me. Love me some Swan!

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Reply by EMark, May 21, 2012.

Rub it in, OT.  ;-)

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Reply by outthere, May 21, 2012.

OK ;-)

 

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Reply by JonDerry, May 22, 2012.

Assuming we don't have any air bn'b requests GDP, you'd be welcome at my place. Free of charge, though I wouldn't turn down a couple/few bottles of barolo in exchange.

I'm out here on the west side, right inbetween Marina Del Rey & Westchester (`5 mins north of LAX).

Anyway, on to the wine...seems like CA Pinot and Burgs are still on the brain. If there are two dinners, would probably be a good idea to have at least two flights per dinner. 

-CA Pinot v. Burgs 

-Dunn v. Leoville Barton? Would be willing to contribute a couple bottles, or a bottle of each.

-Beaucastel vertical?

 

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Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, May 22, 2012.

OK, so my plans have changed a bit. I'll be there for dinner on the 13, then I'm hosting a Numanthia dinner on the 14th, which I have seats avaialable for so if you're interested in joining me let me know, and then will probably fly out on the 11:30pm red eye back to NYC.

So dinner on the 13th then?

Maybe an early dinner or drinks on the 15th?

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Reply by dmcker, May 22, 2012.

Speaking of Swan and Chalone pinot, and the RRV and Pinnacles terroir, has anyone had the Taylor Cellars Michaud Vineyard PN?

He's the former winemaker at Araujo, who also ran their biodynamic farm. He quit Araujo last year and took some seed money from Bart Araujo to start his pinot (and later chard, apparently) effort utilizing fruit from down right next to Chalone. Though I worry he might be making pinots too big for my taste I'm extremely curious, not just because of his avowed aim to get things transparent, but also because of my long-term love affair with the old Chalones. Here's a recent SFGate article on his shift in gears.

 

 

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Reply by JonDerry, May 23, 2012.

Dinner on the 13th sounds great.

How about two basic flights of CA Pinot v. Burgundy and CA Cabernet v. Bordeaux?  Seems like enough space for a mix of familiar and new territory for us all.

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Reply by dmcker, May 23, 2012.

Not L.A., but perhaps for you, outthere (or Fox and NG if they see it...)

 

 

 

From the Beginning
A Once-in-a-Lifetime 
Tasting of Joseph Swan
"Trenton Estate" Pinot Noir  Monday, June 11th  Cavallo Point at the Golden Gate Bridge  The lead story in this week's newsletter  is among the most compelling we can recall: a 30-year retrospective of one of California's most historically significant and enduring Pinot Noirs, Joseph Swan's Trenton Estate Pinot Noir. 

Swan's Trenton Estate Pinot
 is to be experienced and revered for three reasons. 

The first is that it was the seminal Russian River Valley Pinot made from the seminal RRV Pinot vineyard, planted in the 1960s. Second, it must rank among the top half dozen of the valley's most consistently great wines. And third it continues to be made just as it was in the 1970s, a rare legacy of early Pinot Noir in the same way that Mayacamas and Heitz are of early Cabernet.

Foraging through the Past Our newsletter offer is rich with vintages dating back to the early 1980s, thanks to the generosity of Rod Berglund, who's been Swan's winemaker since 1988. In some cases, the bottles Rod provided for our offer were the last of these vintages anyone will see from the winery.

But as generous as Rod was, there weren't enough surviving bottles to include something from the 1960s and 1970s, the winery's earliest years.

But we had another idea. We asked Rod if he could come up with a bottle or two of a few of the earliest wines so that we could do a Retrospective Dinner of a Lifetime on June 11th. He agreed. And he even agreed to join us that night, full of stories of 45 years of Swan history.

The Setting for the Dinner In the past, virtually all of our Northern California dinners have taken place in San Francisco. However, an old friend from Sonoma and NYC, Gillian Ballance, is now wine director at the Murray Circle Restaurant at the beautiful Cavallo Point resort, at the northern end of the Golden Gate Bridge. She graciously offered to host us on June 11th.

Convenient to clients in both the Bay Area and Wine Country, Cavallo Point is a simply spectacular setting, with incredible views of San Francisco. Former chef, Joseph Humphrey, who won a Michelin star for the restaurant, hand-picked his successor, Justin Everett, who's already making his own reputation. Justin will prepare a special four-course dinner to accompany the wines. And, of course, there is no substitute to having an expert sommelier like Gillian handling such precious bottles.

The Wines* The wines have all come directly from the winery's library and in many cases are the last bottles that will see the light of day. It is no overstatement to say that a tasting like this could probably not be repeated.

  2009 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 2007 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 2006 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 2000 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 1997 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot "Pentagon" (only two barrels made) 1995 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 1992 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 1985 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 1984 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 1983 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot 1982 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot
1976 Jos. Swan Trenton Estate Pinot

1975 Jos. Swan Chardonnay ("still pristine" John Gilman) 
1970 Jos. Swan Gamay  (which some observers feel is the greatest wine
Joe Swan made)
1968 Jos. Swan Estate Zinfandel
  The cost of all of this, including a four-course tour de force dinner, is just $295+ tax. But space is limited.
  For reservations, call The Rare Wine Co. (800) 999-4342 or email us at sales@rarewineco.com
Full payment by credit card required to secure. In the event you later need to cancel, payment is refundable only upon our refilling your space.   RESERVATIONS

sales@rarewineco.com

(800) 999-4342 phone | (800) 893-1501 fax
(707) 996-4484 phone | (707) 996-4491 fax

 

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Reply by JonDerry, May 23, 2012.

Not sure what to do about the CA pinot noir thing, but this certainly helps.

I've scouted this beauty, and will likely pull the trigger for our tasting: 1990 Dunn Napa Valley

http://www.aabalat.com/stores/item.cfm/storeID/143/lotID/4478632.html

What's a good vintage for Bordeaux around the same age as 1990?

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