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Snooth User: queendom

Chocolate Wine?

Posted by queendom, Apr 2, 2010.

I ran across something called Chocovino...dutch chocolate with red wine. Familiar to anyone?

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Reply by amour, Apr 2, 2010.

I have seen it on the internet!

Is it good?

Is it available in London and the US ?

I see you have a sweet-tooth !!!!!

Cheers!

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Reply by queendom, Apr 2, 2010.

Lol, a sweet-tooth indeed, but I didn't purchase. I was trying to upload the label pic, but couldn't..I'm sure there is a way. Its called Chocovino...dutch chocolate with red wine. I just don't know about that one, amour.

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Reply by zufrieden, Apr 2, 2010.

There have been numerous forums, publications and postings on the debate-worthy subject of chocolate and wine.  I believe there are a number of other threads and postings on cordial-like concoctions that mate the fruit of the cacao with red wine (usually fortified).

On the wider subject of wine with chocolate, I personally don't mind a semi-sweet medium-dark piece with powerful reds from New World sources - especially Australia, California and South Africa.  Some wines from southern Italy like Salice Salentino also might work - as long as you are not consuming bar after bar of chocolate. Having said this, I would not recommend the better vintage wines of Tuscany or Piedmont - I prefer to savor these on their lonesome or with appropriate food pairings.

But as further postings will no doubt show, this is a bit controversial with site members.  The actual mixing of chocolate and rich, fortified red wine is a different beast.  It does not appeal to me; I prefer premium chocolate on its own or with with deep, dark coffee.  But Chocovino might be worth a try as long as you treat it more as a cordial than wine per se.

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Apr 2, 2010.

I haven't had the Chocovino, but I tried the Desiree from Rosenblum.  It was the most vile thing I've ever put in the mouth (and that's saying something!).   It was almost indescribably bad- a fake-y, chemically, mess of a wine.

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Reply by queendom, Apr 2, 2010.

(screeching@vile...lol. I don't think I'll be trying it..no, don't think so.

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 2, 2010.

Hear hear, GDD. I find our tastes are often in synch.

Queendom, do a forum search for the subject and you'll find several other threads that touch on this subject, as Zuf mentions.

Personally, I don't want *any* 'chocolate wine' (a gimmick if there ever was one), and only want chocolate itself with fortified wines, or distilled liquor....

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Reply by queendom, Apr 2, 2010.

I see there is more of a selection of these wines than I imagined. I suppose if I think port wine, it may change my pressumption. I may have a slight interest in one I saw from Murrielle Winery...a chocolate raspberry concoction.

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Reply by napagirl68, Apr 2, 2010.

I have had this.  It is very much like a Baileys Irish Cream, but supposedly only wine.  It TASTES like brandy or harder liquor blended in, but supposedly isn't.  If you are into Baileys, you might like it.  I like it as a guilty pleasure, but I do not, in any way, consider it wine.  Kinda like picking up cotton candy at the fair... rare, and you would never call it "dessert".

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Reply by zufrieden, Apr 2, 2010.

There you go.  QED.

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Reply by Robert Jabaay, Apr 2, 2010.

It is sold very largely here in Western Michigan because it uses Dutch chocolate (and we are very Dutch over here and we know our chocolate) it is a delightful wine almost liqueur like in weight. It is a great substitute when you feel like a piece of chocolate. It is smooth but it is reminicent of a port. The name is Chocovine from Europa 'The taste of dutch chocolate and fine red wine' it is a product of Holland 14% Alcohol. I love it.

 
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Reply by Juls2, Apr 8, 2010.

I currently have a bottle of Trentadue Chocolate Amore open.   Purchased it last week when searching for a dessert wine. First glass, I thought it was ok ...not thrilled, but it's growing on me; however, I think after this bottle, I will keep my red wine liquid and my chocolate solid and enjoy them in tandem as I usually do.

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Apr 9, 2010.

I think part of my problem with the Desiree is that I really dislike the chocolate/red table wine combo.  I think it's vastly, vastly overrated, and less than the sum of its parts.

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Reply by Benzibar, Apr 9, 2010.

Just looked at the website: http://www.chocovine.com/welcome.htm. Frankly it looks disgusting. However my curious side is slowly moving the mouse towards buying some just to try it. Must......resist........

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Reply by Degrandcru, Apr 9, 2010.

Yep, does look disgusting "The taste of dutch chocolate and fine red wine" and all this decorated with a dutch windmill... Since when do Dutch know about chocolate? If they would at least try to promote Belgian or Swiss chocolate with the wine. I am convinced that this is not more and not less then the cheapest french wine from imported grapes mixed with artificial chocolate flavours... but hey, its gluten free!!

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Reply by dmcker, Apr 10, 2010.

How about in Mexico, D? Seem to remember Moctezuma drank a lot to keep his energy up. Think he'd be mixing it with wine these days?

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Reply by jameshull, Apr 10, 2010.

I was at a very well regarded restaurant in Santa Clara a couple of months ago and with dessert, the waiter recommended a "Chocolate Infused Zinfandel Port" from Sonoma as a pairing. My wine savvy friends and I looked at each other thinking "Is this guy out of his mind??"... but... I have to say... It was fantastic. So I think, like a lot of things, if it's done right... it can be really good.

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Reply by Degrandcru, Apr 10, 2010.

dmcker: noooo, nowadays Moctezuma would mix his chocolate with Mezcal or Tequila. Actually they sell chocolate filled with Tequila here, but I've never tried it.

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Apr 10, 2010.

James, are you sure it wasn't the Rosenblum Desiree?  I'm pretty sure it's made in Sonoma.  I'm not aware of any others, although I'm sure they exist.

I know everyone's pallate is different, but it takes a lot to literally make me gag and that Desiree sure did.

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Reply by JCCosto, May 4, 2010.

I actually have a botle of the Chocovino. I purchased it from a local wine merchant here in Winston-Salem, NC (Total Wine Store). I actually have been afraid to try it, as it looks like bottled chocolate milk. One of these days I will work up the nerve to taste it. Anyone actually taste this stuff?

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Reply by madmanny, May 5, 2010.

I've tried the Chocolate "wine" at Trentadue - it ain't wine.  However, the make a Viognier Port that I found enjoyable. 

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