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Snooth User: jescobio

Chinese Wine? Interesting aticle.

Posted by jescobio, Jan 29.




Reply by EMark, Jan 29.

Agree, that is pretty interesting.  Culture, of course, influences most human actions and I found this sentence most interesting:

Analysts say red is viewed as a lucky color in China, so it helps explain a preference for full-bodied reds over crisp white wines.

I'm not totally willing to accept that conclusion without proof, but it does not seem totally unreasonable.

The other interesting factoid comes towards the end:

Wine consumption in China has doubled twice over the past five years and is expected to double again by 2016 to 400 million cases, matching U.S. consumption levels.

You certainly cannot argue against historical data, and, while extrapolation always has risk, there is no reason to not make the prediction.

Reply by dvogler, Jan 30.

China drank over one billion bottles of wine because it's disinfected water...

That's not a large amount of wine per capita!  As for the wine, I admit I have had the "Great Wall" cabernet sauvignon and it's not bad.  However, I'm skeptical of anything from China that is consumable and won't be buying any.

They've already influenced Bordeaux prices and other wines will follow.  They pay at least double the normal price for Penfolds Grange.  Recently, a restaurant in Shanghai has been selling a BC wine (Painted Rock - Red Icon) for $900, and here it's $55 and not exactly plentiful.

I sincerely hope that buying North American wine doesn't become fashionable there or we're all in trouble!

Reply by outthere, Jan 30.

In trouble? The entrepreneur sees it as an opportunity! I'd better get going on my vineyard plans. D'oh, no water! ;)

Reply by napagirl68, Jan 31.

Uh... yeah, right.  Disinfected water.... OK.  The Chinese consume a LOT of wine, I don't think it is a water supply thing.  At any rate, they're buying up CA vineyards very quickly...   One i know of recently  is Hannah Nicole in Brentwood.  I am hearing there are many others, but they try to keep it quiet. They keep the original staff in place.   But winemaking practices are being changed to reflect a profit/distribute goal overall.  Artistic free range is gone for the winemakers....  So very, very sad.

Reply by dvogler, Jan 31.

Napagirl, what I meant by that, is that it's safer to drink than water.  A friend of mine was in Beijing (business) and he said they all drank wine and no water at dinner and after.  Much like when I go to Brazil, I drink beer (which at home I NEVER do) because it's cheaper than water and no risk of dysentery!

I think I'm going to learn Mandarin. 

Reply by napagirl68, Jan 31.

Dvogler, my sister spent 2mos in Beijing as a visiting artist ~3yrs ago.  I will have to ask her about the water... she never mentioned that.  the only thing she mentioned was the awful air pollution- she is a jogger, and couldn't jog- had to join a gym.  Her internet was also blocked from multiple sites, and she was instructed to only make art of a certain style.  She is not a big wine drinker, so I am not sure what she drank there.  She went back to Shanghai about a year ago and liked that better.

Reply by Sduquality Wines, Feb 1.

this was a nice article..

Reply by zufrieden, Feb 1.

I have not been back to China since a lengthy visit prior to the changes instituted by the once disgraced Deng Xiaoping (you can do the math).  The idea of a bustling wine industry such as currently exists in Hebei Province was nothing short of  apipe dream at the time of Mao's death in 1976.

And given the socio-political changes in the intervening period I feel very little inclination to return to reprise my trip.

Try as I might,  I could find only fiery hard liquor or watery local beer at the time - regardless of whether I was in the vicinity of the Buddhist temple in Sian or on the esplanade of Shanghai of the day.  There actually were some grapes of European provenance growing in certain locations, but none passed my lips during my stay.  The thirsty foreign students were even more desparate - wanting me to purchase even the undrinkable fire water.  Disconsolate they were, as a group.

And imported wine was nearly impossible to find.

Surprisingly to some of you, however, I could breath the air quite nicely.  Is there is a lesson here, I wonder - considering that air in London circa 1900 was pretty much unbreathable by today's standands?

In any event, try that bottle of Great Wall and see what you think.  Such wine is representative of juice the average person can obtain elsewhere in the world; other more interesting wines are very difficult to obtain and may not be worthwhile discussing here.


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