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Snooth User: dschur

Chateau Tour St. Joseph, Haut Medoc 2000

Posted by dschur, Aug 4, 2008.

I bought a bottle at this little liquor store next to a BYOB Indian restaurant. I enjoyed it so much I went back and bought their only other bottle to bring home. If anyone else has gone through the hassle of carting a bottle of wine back on an airplane these days you know how impressed you have to be to go through it. My challenge is how one goes about finding wines like this that do not have wide distribution in the US.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how you find wines like this in general? Of course if anyone knows where I might find this one specifically I'd appreciate that very much too.

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Reply by Rodolphe Boulanger, Aug 5, 2008.

The Snooth site is a great tool for finding these small production/small distribution gems. However, I searched for your wine and wasn't surprised to turn up 0 stores with this item in stock.

You see, the 2000 Haut Medocs were released in the US in 2002-2003 and have mostly sold through. Vintage 2000 wines from more famous Chateaux are still in stores, but you'll be hard pressed to find bargains. I suspect that you spent less than $25 for this bottle and suggest that you try to find some other 2000 Haut Medocs to see if they are drinking as well right now.

What part of the country are you from? Newer vintages of Tour St. Joseph seem to be widely available in the Southeast.

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Reply by dschur, Aug 5, 2008.

Yep. It was a $23 gem. I have found the 2005 for $19.99 online, so now I just need to smuggle it into my home state by ordering it to a relative's address. For some reason Illinois has wierd regulations. I usually have no problem getting shipments, but lately have had more trouble. I am pretty confident that 2005 looks to be quite the stunning year for Bordeaux at all price points. I tried out a $17 bottle from a local wineshop and it seems to have the potential to be great in a few years. It was een drinkable now after 45 minutes or so of air.

Thanks for the reply, I'll grab some of the 2005 and see how it goes. I'll keep trolling for some of the other 2000 Haut-Medoc bargains if I can find them.

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Reply by Philip James, Aug 5, 2008.

Thanks Rodolphe - i also tried the search and got 0 results worldwide. I was doing some digging into why that might be, but you already addressed the likely issue...

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Reply by Rodolphe Boulanger, Aug 5, 2008.

Illinois' weird regulations are actually a new anti-consumer state law that cracks down on shipments from out of state retailers. The Illinois distributor lobby, tired of being cut out of the loop when wine was shipped into their state, rammed this law through the legislature. Here's a good article on the topic:
http://www.winespectator.com/Wine/F...

2005 is THE year for Bordeaux; from top to bottom, the wines are extremely good. It was, arguably, an even stronger vintage than 2000 for inexpensive and mid-priced wines.

While you are at it, take a look at some of the Bordeaux offerings from my employer, The Wine Messenger, a licensed Illinois retailer - they will not disappoint!
http://www.winemessenger.com/Browse...

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Reply by WineGent, Aug 8, 2008.

In those situations, I try to contact the wholesale distributor for that particulat line and call them directly. Sometimes, if there is less then a case, or, if they had some returns, they have a few bottles they can dig up.

They will happily send these bottles to your local retailer for purchase. They will sometime discount the bottles to close them out, giving you a good deal for the time you spend tracking them down.


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