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Snooth User: mrchili

Box wine

Posted by mrchili, Oct 14, 2010.

I am sure this will be a taboo subject, but with the economy the way it is, does anyone have suggestions on a good (read acceptable) box wine? I vacillate between reds and whites, but tend to shy away from really heavy reds as a "daily drink". I know it may be too much to ask (or for some to admit), but any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike

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Reply by Girl Drink Drunk, Oct 14, 2010.

I don't drink boxed wine, but my mother likes Black Box products.  They seem easily found and reasonably priced.

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Reply by ChipDWood, Oct 14, 2010.

I just haven't tried many, though I should.  The Virginia Wineworks label is going to "bag & box" format, which is a smart move I think.  In a couple weeks they're going to start with their Chardonnay, then see how things go before progresssing to their other levels & labels (Merlot, Red blend, Rose, & a DARN good Viognier/Vidal Blanc blend (I must say).

  1. Box wines have a tendency to stay much more air-tight after being opened, giving them a much broader period of prime consumption time than bottles, seeled or otherwise.
  2. They're much more efficient to ship, regarding square footage and tonnage than bottles.
  3. The wines inside the boxes are made in a style that's "ready to go", and need no aging.

The Virginia Wine Works, 2009 Chardonnay... 50% stainless, 50% oak so it'll be the perfect candidate for such an experiment for the winery.

If things go well I would look for more of their whites & perhaps the rose to wind up in the bag/box.

Gonzo discretion: I'm not getting paid bupkiss by Virginia Wine Works OR Michael Shaps for this mention of his & Phillips' outstanding, Virginian establishment.

Though I will work for wine.

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Reply by zufrieden, Oct 14, 2010.

There are definitely box wines that can win you over - if you are a quantity-type person.  Generally stick to fruit-forward whites and reds that you know you are going to drink on a daily basis (hence the boxes, one supposes).  I don't usually go for box wines unless holding a large party since the population of home base is not that high.

Unfortunately, I don't have any particular recommendations for reasons related to the above, but would definitely stick with the idea of nice, fruity whites and lighter reds.

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Reply by BrandonA, Oct 15, 2010.

I have a friend that swears by Franzia or Bandit for her daily drink.  Her drinks tend to turn to sangria like cocktails with lots of fruit in them.

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Reply by Beaconheath, Nov 4, 2010.

Why should boxed wine be taboo?  Corked bottles are a venerable tradition, but there's no chemical reason why the quality of wine in boxed bags should be compromised.  People who snub bag-in-box associate it with American sugary bulk wines meant for the undiscerning mass market, but that too is only a matter of history--surely it's not the bags that make the wine inferior.  Australia and Europe have been quicker than the States to embrace this kind of packaging for premium wines, for a number of strong reasons.

I too have looked high and low for a lighter, dryer boxed wine for everyday, glass-a-day use, to no avail.  Europe has lots available:

http://www.jpchenet.com/cinsault-grenache-en.html

http://www.vinohispania.com/rose-wine/emporda/3-lt-rose-wine-bag-in-box_1028000_21.aspx

http://www.artisanvineyards.com/Products/ViewDetail.aspx?ID=3124

http://www.unitedwineries.com/brands/berberana/the-dragon-collection-/berberana-dragon-ros%C3%A9-bag-in-box.aspx

http://www.lestello.com/UK/domaine/wines/bib.htm

The list could go on and on.

My local retailer would be willing to get something like this for me, but none of the distributors he works with (South Dakota) lists any of them.  That seems to be the problem.  American distributors don't believe there's a market for these wines.

Does anyone know of a distributor or an online store that carries this sort of thing?

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Reply by VegasOenophile, Nov 4, 2010.

Black Box wines are solid for nice, quaffable everyday drinkers.  Red Truck in the little barrel is good too.

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Reply by Beaconheath, Nov 4, 2010.

Black Box is certainly a respected name in bagged wines, but their reds are the usual richer varietals--CabernetS, Merlot, Shiraz--which I'm not sure I'd want every day for a straight month from a 3L box (I draw approx. 100-125ml/day).  What's hard to find in the current American market are the more medium- or light-bodied premium blends, dry or off-dry, made from grenache, cinsault, carignan, valdeguie, etc., or especially rose wines.

Haven't seen Red Truck or Pink Truck in BIB packaging, and their website says nothing about it.  Would try it like a shot if I could find it.

This is a market niche waiting for some enterprising American company, or for a distributor to tap into what's already there in Europe.


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