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Bordeaux 2010

Posted by cilewine, Feb 11, 2013.

The Bordeaux en primeur wines from the 2010 vintage are about to be released...which wines are you most excited about? 

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Reply by amour, Feb 11, 2013.

So much to look forward too, (Shipping April!)

Of course, I await my 375 ml bottles of:  2010 Chateau Suduiraut Sauternes......described as big and rich!  Very interestingly, for me, that it is also said to be clean and round as well as lush and long!!! What a great combination of attributes!

 

Also 2010 Caillou Sauternes Blend.....which the great Jancis described as BIG BOLD SWEET WHITE 2010! Plus, clean and fresh.

2010 Chateau Gloria St.Julien Bordeaux Blend....simply because I followed Gloria over the years...so wonderful! 

I hope to also experience the powerful, austere 2010 Ausone with its red-currant and violet notes and its super mineral finish, I am told.  That, I would like to drink with a powerful dinner date!  Celebrating a great moment in history or in our personal lives....!

Of course, so many of these wines are all the greater with some cellaring.

There are others which I look forward to also......will re-convene later!  CHEERS!  I wanted to get the ball rolling on this thread!!!!

Or to thread the needle...is that more apt...well a stitch in time saves nine!!!

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 11, 2013.

I liked the Leoville Barton at the UGC, but not sure if I'm a buyer at $120/bottle, maybe just one.

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Reply by amour, Feb 11, 2013.

Yes, yes, of course Leoville Barton Saint Julien, as well as pricey Ducru Beaucaillou Saint Julien, and the very aromatic, with a tarry finish, we are promised,  Beychevelle (not bad at around $100. U.S.),  and which we can keep for 30 years! 

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 11, 2013.

Almost forgot, was also impressed with Gruaud Larose in 2010 ; )

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Reply by cilewine, Feb 12, 2013.

Thank you for getting the ball rolling on this thread, Amour!

Wouldn't it be great to taste Ausone 2010!! A girl can dream :) 

My personal favorite Sauternes from 2010 (besides d'Yquem of course!) is Chateau Coutet in BarsacIt has a fresher, more mineral edge compared to wines from the village of Sauternes which I find interesting. 

Jon, I am also really excited about the Saint Juliens from 2010.   A more affordable Saint Julien that is under $100 and still superb is 2010 Chateau Branaire-Ducru.  Its neighbors are Beychevelle, Ducru Beaucaillou and Graud Larose, and the four chateaux have a very similar terroir. At around $80 per bottle its definitely not cheap, but it is has a great price/quality ratio!

Cheers!! :)

 

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Reply by JonDerry, Feb 12, 2013.

Yes, I'm definitely partial to St. Julien wines...have enjoyed Leoville Poyferre in the past (especially the 05'), and Barton rarely disappoints. Funny you mention Branaire-Ducru, I didn't care for the sample of 10' I tasted at the UGC, but realize it just may need time to integrate. A friend was telling me that some substantial investment has recently been put into Branaire-Ducru, though for another $20-40+ per bottle, I'm likely to opt for Gruaud and Barton ; )

A right banker that seems really nice the last couple years is Chateau Canon, though we're getting even higher in price.

By the way, where are you working in Bordeaux, and how is it going?

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Reply by amour, Feb 12, 2013.

Thanks for those JONDERRY....yet another reason to love Snooth...We all know your palate by now, JONDERRY!!!!

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Reply by amour, Feb 12, 2013.

Interesting this Branaire-Ducru chat!  I hope to taste this one day......best from 2015-2035.

I remember at the Union de Grand Cru in London, it was (2009 Vintage, that is) described as "MISSING A LITTLE FOCUS"........but was rated in the nineties by everyone, and the fine tannins definitely recognized and particularly noted.

Parker called 2009 the Single Greatest Vintage..., less tannic than 2005, just in case Parker is of value to you!

Interestingly, the great Jancis tasted: "a rather unwelcome note of coconut."

I was all smiles!!!...What is ever so unwelcome about coconut!!!!!  I guess it is a matter of context...and after all, she must be right, if only because this is about serious Left Bank Red, sophisticated wine...not Caribbean laid back fare and rum, which we so enjoy, in another context, of course!!! (SMILE ALL!)

See how very exciting and DEEP the wine life/wine culture is.

And laughter is the best medicine...or is it wine, as well!!!!!

Would love to hear what those who drink this, think of it.

By the way, from my readings, Leoville Poyferre, Saint Pierre, and Clinet, are suggested as in the same class, intense, compelling, rich, powerful, and tarry edged, some of more opulent than others.

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Reply by amour, Feb 12, 2013.

Just a few more expansive points....Chateau Canon (formerly Clos St Martin), is definitely high class Saint Emilion appellation.  (Often described as fresh, subtle, graceful.)  It pairs well with Dover Sole in England.  The property is neighbouring my noble Ausone and La Gaffeliere.

Secondly, some may not realize how much Ausone has propelled itself over the last thirty five years...I was quite young when they started to rise....my palate was developing rapidly at an earlier age than most!!!!

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Reply by cilewine, Feb 26, 2013.

Sorry for taking so long to get back! 

Last week I had the chance to visit Chateau Langoa & Léoville Barton (Saint Julien), Chateau Kirwan (Margaux) and Chateau Haut-Bages Liberal (Pauillac).  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to taste any of their 2010's... they must be getting ready to but them in their bottles!

BUT I tasted several wines at Langoa & Léoville Barton and was really impressed.  Samples of their 1st and 2nd wines from 2011's were definitely very young, but showed a ton of potential.  I can't wait to try them again in 10 + years!  My favorite was the 2004...but it had enough age to be almost fully developed.  

Langoa & Léoville Barton have a great reputation for offering really good value wines for a Second Growth.  I am really looking forward to tasting their 2010 wines, hopefully soon!

AMOUR, I have never thought to pair Dover Sole with Saint-Emilion wines.. I must try that soon! Right now I also really like Chateau Fleur Cardinale in Saint-Emilion!

JONDERRY, I am working for a fine wine merchant called Millésima. So far its going great!  Bordeaux is an incredible city with a great wine culutre, and I feel really lucky to be working at one of the best wine companies.  The only downside is the never ending rain!

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Reply by Tom Wandeloski, Feb 26, 2013.

While I loved my traditional Bordeaux, I just tasted another White Bordeaux this weekend.

The 2010 White Bordeaux from Chateau Bellevue.  I served the wine with some grilled asparagus and lemon pepper crusted Halibut.  Yummy!

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Reply by cilewine, Feb 26, 2013.

Red Bordeaux does tend to overshadow the whites, Tom!! 

I have to admit that I wasn't a fan of dry white Bordeaux until a few years ago, but discovering it has been really fun.  My personal favorite from 2010 is Chateau de Chantegrive's "Cuvée Caroline"... it is fresh, has a complex nose and is very well balanced!

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Reply by JonDerry, Mar 8, 2013.

So a recent 2010 Bordeaux discovery.

Chateau Latour Martillac from Pessac-Leognan: Have to say this stuff agrees with my palate as a good, casual drink with a little something extra. It's a wine I don't have to feel remorse for spending too much money on it (around $40), and is enjoyable to drink now or can age 5+ years I'd assume. Really not sure how this will play out, but it's a find for me nonetheless at a good price point for Bordeaux.

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Reply by amour, Mar 8, 2013.

Hope to hear more from you, CILEWINE!

Yes...I think that you are referring to that citrus-like tangy taste one gets on the finish of Chateau Coutet.

Yes; a good sweet wine is all about the balacing acidity.

When Sweet Wine is paired with dessert, as I understood it over the many years, the wine should, at best, be richer and sweeter than the dessert.

In other words, if the dessert is richer and sweeter, than the wine, after having the desset, the sweet wine will come across not as well, in fact, poorly, and it may even seem too dry.

So, the moral of the story is to make doubly, triply, sure that your wine is sweeter than your dessert!

Hope to hear some commentary/opinions on this piece from our fantastic Snoothers all, you count, yes you do; and of course.... the informative BORDEAUX CILEWINE response is greatly anticipated!

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Reply by amour, Mar 8, 2013.

I am drinking Chateau Haut Bages Liberal Pauillac tonight, as well as,

Haut Medoc de Haut Bages Liberal CILEWINE...will post a tasting note!

Has anyone had any of them?

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Reply by zufrieden, Mar 30, 2013.

The best (hyped) wines are easy to acquire - just vote with bucks.  I am more interested in the lesser chateau that will go quickly. If there is a seriousness to this question, I will respond with some suggestions for petites propriétés.

Z.


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