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- Best wine ever?
If you could choose one bottle of wine to drink, regardless of price, what would it be?
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1139 - Reply by dmcker, Jun 24.
Depends on mood, bodily condition, time of year, environment and many other factors. No single best, no way, no how. Hell, I'd have trouble naming the two-cases worth of single bottles I'd want to have on a desert isle.
But if you insist, the '59 La Mission Haut Brion *may* be the best I've had, over a tasting cycle between 1988 and 2008.
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0390 - Reply by GregT, Jun 24.
Today, on my deathbed, on a summer night, on a winter night, after a dinner, with a dinner? As dmcker says, there are to many variables.
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1738 - Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Jun 25.
The last bottle I really enjoyed will do it for me. Of course since that was a 78 Monfortino it might just do it.
Having said that the best bottle of wine I have ever had was a 1958 Monfortino and the one bottle that I would like to drink that has eluded me so far would be the Inglenook, BV Private Reserve or Charles Krug from the same vintage.
But for a night like tonight, not actually tonight since I am under the weather, but a night like tonight most likel a Mulderbosch Sauvignon Blanc would do the trick!
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There's been a lot of attention on the first growth wines such as Mouton Rothschild. Is the hype warranted as well as the price some of these wines fetch?
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How can anyone answer that? There's been attention on first growths since before they were even created. Do you like first growth Bordeaux? Enough to buy them?
Cost and quality are not correlated and cost and personal preference are even less correlated, or at least should be.
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I can answer that.
NO
Mouton in particular - NO. It's has not performed consistantly enough to warrant it's lofty price.
I used to buy some first growths. Keep in mind that when the 2000's were soaring on the futures market the 1999's were being discounted on retailers shelves. I picked up several bottle of Lafite, Latour and Margaux for under $100 each.
I know many people who will say that was foolish since those wines don't represent the heights to which those wines can reach and therefore are too pedestrian to warrant even the $100 tariff.
Whatever. They still reflect the style of the Chateau. I think there are so many wines that offer better value. for me, that I don't even think about buying first growths anymore. In fact I really don't even buy Bordeaux anymore since i drink very little of it and when I do drink it I want something mature, looking forward to a few 1983's i just pulled from the cellar.
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6 - Reply by happyrobot, Oct 5.
I'll place my vote for an early 1970's Château d’Yquem we had at a dinner a few years ago :)
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38 - Reply by Muchkabouche, Oct 8.
Has anyone here actually had a bottle from Screaming Eagle or Opus One? I hear a lot about these cult wines being the best in the world. Much depends on the individual palate, whether or not you really love it. Any personal experience with either of these wines?
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078 - Reply by cigarman168, Oct 8.
I will go for most expensive one DRC. If I can pick up more will choose first growth wines with RP ratings 100.
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Muchkabouche, have had a couple of bottles of Screaming Eagle, and nearly 100 bottles of Opus One over the years. Neither is the best in the world, in my estimation, though both can be very good wines. I imagine SE afficionados are cringing at being included with O1... ;-)
Cigarman, do you mean any DRC? Even an Echézeaux or Grands Echézeaux? If so, I'll have to say that there are dozens of other pinot noirs out there as good or better. If just Romanee Conti, or perhaps La Tache, then perhaps just a very few, but it depends on the vintage and other factors I and others mention above regarding time of year, bodily condition, etc., etc. since this is such a subjective matter.
You are obviously talking about 'the best' as reflected by the wine marketplace over the past century or so. But do you think that market forces always showcase ultimate quality, whether for shoes or automobiles or anything else? I have had several RP 100s and high 90s from Bordeaux (and not all are first growths, such as La Mission Haut Brion in Graves), as well as all the DRCs, from multiple vintages, and while I respect them for what they are, am in several cases sure they aren't the absolute best at any given time of what's available even in places like Japan or China. Those ratings, and the brandname cachet of a DRC or whoever else, are for the most part for people with limited knowledge of what else is out there....
