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Snooth User: Jimmy Cocktail

Barrel Oak Winery Norton 2008

Posted by Jimmy Cocktail, Oct 15, 2009.

We were talking the other day about the Norton grape and I had mentioned that there was a NOVA winery that had just won a double gold with theirs. Well, I thought that I should give it a review to give people a little more insight as to what this wine is all about. This is one that I cheerfully recommend.


Reply by D9sus4, Oct 15, 2009.

JimmyC, their website says that their Norton was aged in Virginia Oak... what's that? Thanks for the tip, I'm mail ordering a few bottles tomorrow.

Reply by Jimmy Cocktail, Oct 15, 2009.

Virginia Oak is simply American Oak grown in Virginia. There are several reputable coopers here in the state that produce quality barrels from local wood. This goes directly to Gregory's article in today's email.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 16, 2009.

Nice linking there. I think I might take a long weekend in the spring to visit the great state of Virginia and check out their wine trail. Maybe go tramping around the forests too!

Reply by Jimmy Cocktail, Oct 16, 2009.

If you do make it down this way, please let me know. I'd be more than happy and honored to share a glass with you.

Reply by rhodies, Nov 23, 2009.

Comparing Norton wines. I have a database of 170 Norton producing vineyards and have visited over 50 of them so far. Has been an interesting ride. Instead of boring you with the details, this is our take on these Norton wines so far:

Norton Wine Producers - 1 Poor 2 Fair 3 Good 4 Excellent 5 Exceptional

Ozan Vineyard and Cellars 1 Calera, AL
White Oak Vineyards 3 Anniston, AL

Crane Creek Vineyards 2+ (needs maturing) Young Harris, GA
Frogtown Cellars 1 Dahlonega, GA
Three Sisters Vineyards 3 Dahlonega, GA
Tiger Mountain Vineyards 1 Tiger, GA (Clayton)

Chrisman Mill Vineyards 2 Nicholasville, KY
Elk Creek Vineyards 3+ Owenton, KY
Lovers Leap Vineyard & Winery 3 Lawrenceburg, KY
River Valley Winery 2 (needs maturing) Carrollton, KY
Smith-Berry Winery -1 New Castle, KY
Wildside Vines Winery 1 Versailles, KY
Wight-Meyer Winery 1 Shepherdsville, KY

Adam Puchta Winery 4 Hermann, MO
Augusta Winery 3 Augusta, MO
Blumenhof Winery 5 Marthasville, MO
Bommarito Estate Winery 3 New Haven, MO
Cave Vineyard 3 Ste. Genevieve, MO
Chandler Hill 5 Defiance, MO
Cooper’s Oak Winery 1 Higbee, MO
Crown Valley Winery 3 Ste. Genevieve, MO
Heinrichshaus Winery 4 St. James, MO
Hermannhof Winery 1 Hermann, MO
Les Bourgeois Vineyards 2 Rocheport, MO
Louis P. Balducci Vineyards 2 Augusta, MO
Meramec Vineyards 1 St. James, MO
Montelle Winery 4 Augusta, MO
Mount Pleasant Winery 3 Augusta, MO
Oak Glenn Winery 2+ Hermann, MO
River Ridge Winery 2+ Commerce, MO
Robller Vineyard Winery 4 New Haven, MO
Sainte Genevieve Winery 1 Ste. Genevieve, MO
St. James Winery 3 / 4 (Reserve) St. James, MO
Stone Hill Winery 3 Hermann, MO
Sugar Creek Winery 1 Defiance, MO
Tower Rock Winery -1 Altenburg, MO
Villa Antonio Winery 1 Hillsboro, MO
Yellow Farm House 1 Defiance, MO

North Carolina
Grove Winery 1 Gibsonville, NC
Hinnant Family Vineyards 1 Pine Level, NC

New Jersey
Valenzano Winery 2 Shamong, NJ

Stone Mt. Wine Cellars 3 Pine Grove, PA

Corey Ippolita Winery 1 Blountville, TN

Abingdon Winery 3 Abingdon, VA
Barrel Oak Winery 3 (need maturing) Delaplane, VA
Bluemont Vineyard 2 Bluemont, VA
Burnley Vineyards 1 Barboursville, VA
Chrysalis Vineyards 2+ Middleburg, VA
Cooper Vineyards 4 Louisa, VA
Horton Vineyards 2+ Gordonsville, VA
Keswick Vineyards 1 Keswick, VA
Rockbridge Vineyards 3 Raphine, VA
Winery at La Grange 1 Haymarket, VA

As an additional note, we have visited some of these vineyards over a three year period more than once to taste if progress has been made. In a few cases the these numbers did slide up and down a notch. Bottom line, it is interesting to see how Norton vineyards are maturing. So many vineyards, so many miles to travel . . . . . . .

Reply by AdamJefferson, Nov 23, 2009.

Hermann, Missouri had a wine trail event yesterday, featuring six of the local vineyards, and all of them on the list Rhodies compiled. The red wines I enjoyed most were blends with some Norton present, but I just haven't cultivated a pure norton taste yet. The Missouri whites just seem to have a more interesting and appealing range of flavors than the reds, particularly in the sweet wines. A couple of the red wines we tried reminded me of a fresh Beaujolais, and a few having some similarities with pinot noir and blends using pinot noir. Overall, Rhodies' scores aren't much different than I would give to these six, maybe a bit generous in the high range. The Missouri River bluff views were spectacular; it was an enjoyable way to spend the afternoon.

Reply by D9sus4, Nov 25, 2009.

Rhodies, Nice job of compiling. Lot of work for a none-too-great grape, but very useful to those of us who don't live on the West coast and like to visit wineries.

I agree with all of your Missouri winery ratings except for Stone Hill, which I usually find to be amongst the better Nortons. I'd give them a 4 for their regular Norton, and a 5 for their Cross J Vineyard which is a very limited bottling (460 cases) aged in mostly new French oak.

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