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ARRGGHH! Third corked wine in a month...(make it my fourth-updated)

Posted by napagirl68, Nov 13, 2012.

They say you get them all at once!

One was from Santa Cruz Mtns, one was from Monterey Cty, and one was from Chile.  Just happened to get them all in a short period of time... uugghh.   The last was no big deal- wasn't mine, someone else bought it and not very costly, but the first two were in the $40-60 range.

I hate corks.

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Reply by outthere, Nov 13, 2012.

You're a TCA  magnet, woman. Tough luck this month.

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Reply by gregt, Nov 14, 2012.

It's a shame NG. I hope that they were Pinot Noir at least and not something worthy. But I'm with you - I hate corks too.

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Reply by napagirl68, Nov 14, 2012.

GregT- yes... two of them were Pinot.

What exactly don't you like about Pinot?  Have you had any of the really great Russian River Pinots?  I understand my husband not liking pinot, as he has a twisted palate.  He likes that nasty, green pepper/gasoline taste of Chilean Cabs, so it's no surprise he can't appreciate a nice pinot.

Just curious..

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Reply by wineclubreviews, Nov 14, 2012.

First - sorry about the corkin'.  How frustrating, eh?

But @napagirl68 - you crack me up with your "nasty" description of Chilean Cabs.  I'm one of those gross people who like it.  (And, I've recently found some nice Pinot.  Didn't think I was a fan of pinot until now!)

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Reply by gregt, Nov 14, 2012.

Well at least they were PN so no great loss. Although a little TCA may have given them some real interest if you would have just let it settle in for a while!

It's not that I don't like Pinot Noir. Well, that's not true, but I mean for argument's sake let's say it isn't. It's just that there's so much really good wine in the world and we're allotted only so much time on God's green earth. Then subtract from that the early years where you weren't given wine, and the times you just can't have any because you're sick or in some situation where you just can't for whatever reason, and you figure we're likely to gasp out our last breaths flapping around on some gurney or hospital bed or the floor of the bathroom. It's a depressing end we face and that prospect fills us with despair.

Those of us who are fortunate however, have found one thing that, other than a puppy, produces unreserved joy.

Wine.

It makes us happy and seduces us into looking for and uncovering new and wonderful wines that we never imagined. Confronted with the vastness of that universe, we shrink to nullity. And yet - there is no reason to be melancholy because that great universe is ours to explore. Even tho we are like the merest speck of dust, we're still here. So humbly, gratefully, as each day comes to a close, we reach for a glass of wine, all the while cognizant of the fact that the counter of our days clicks on.

And then to find that some blackguard filled the glass with Pinot Noir! An act worthy of Satan himself.

At the very moment when we're at our most vulnerable, to collide with pure evil . . .

Domination of Black . . .

Out of the window,
I saw how the planets gathered
Like the leaves themselves
Turning in the wind.
I saw how the night came,
Came striding like the color of the heavy hemlocks
I felt afraid.
And I remembered the cry of the peacocks.

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Reply by JonDerry, Nov 14, 2012.

I just figured out GregT's avatar and that video Fox posted yesterday are related!

Ahh, Pinot Noir - such a divisive grape.

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Reply by zufrieden, Nov 14, 2012.

Grow to love the scent of wet rat fur, soggy cardboard and mouldy woodchips.  It may save you trips back to the wine-merchant who will argue that TCA is an "acquired taste".  A taste not-to-be-acquired, mind.

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Reply by zufrieden, Nov 14, 2012.

On Pinot Noir:  if good, no better, if great, the greatest.  The trouble?  Hard to find and sometime hard for the poetically illiterate to appreciate at the best of times. The wine is subtle, romantic, sensual, feminine and like the softest kiss of youth.

Sort of brings to mind Ponce de León and the search for the fountain of youth...

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Reply by napagirl68, Nov 14, 2012.

My Tarsier,  you didn't answer my question... have you had a nice Russian River Pinot?    Outthere and Foxall, I think GregT needs a trip to Sonoma...

I used to dislike pinot as well...

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Reply by napagirl68, Nov 15, 2012.

Here, here my sweet Tarsier.... I have some nice, fat , fresh, crickets for you......    yummmmm

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Reply by gregt, Nov 15, 2012.

Sigh.

NICE Russian River PN?

A few.

Williams-Selyem (good), Merry Edwards (good), Gary Farrell (not exciting), Dutton Goldfield (not exciting), Rodney Strong (not exciting), Kosta Browne (did not like), Christopher Creek (not as good as their other wines), La Crema (OK).

I really can't remember all of them but I would dutifully taste them when I visited and was usually more attracted to something else. Did like Merry Edwards though, and once got to taste it side by side with both her and Dan from KB. Huge difference in approach to the same grape. Hers was better IMO.  

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Reply by napagirl68, Nov 15, 2012.

GregTarsier...

I agree with most of your assessments:  Selyem good (but not the best IMO), Dutton was a BIG disappointment to me.. along the lines of a $65 disappointment, bought at Half Moon Bay Wine/Cheese (which does have a decent selection).  But there are so many smaller producers, with very small lots...  you know I love the 2008 Lioco sonoma coast, but hard to source now.   It is an art to bring out both the delicacy of the pinot grape, along with complexity, layers or depth.  I wish you could come round for a blind tasting... would love to hear your reactions.  You find La Crema OK?  It IS just ok.... marginal at best, IMO.  There is SO much better than that up in sonoma that is absolutely not distributed, some only 100 cases or less production. Funny, but the wines that are <200cases typically are the ones in my cellar- of ALL types of varietals.  Too many choices, too little time ;-)

I suppose it has to do with what is in your backyard (or wine bars/shops/restaurants)... plain and simple truth. 

I just opened a Garys' Vineyard Pinot from a maker I typically adore, and I HATE this pinot.  Was not cheap either.  I am picky with pinot. 

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Reply by gregt, Nov 15, 2012.

Yeah, not hyping La Crema - but it's not going to make you go blind and it's cheap. Lots of better wine in the world. I wouldn't mind trying some of the smaller producers. But small producers of any grape can be interesting. Looks like we need to get out to RRV again.

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Reply by napagirl68, Nov 17, 2012.

Number four has arrived!

Yes, my fourth corked wine in ~month or so.    Tuke Holdsworth 1995 Vintage Port...   Not something I bought- given to me.  Ugghh.

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Reply by Richard Foxall, Nov 17, 2012.

Wow with that track record I would avoid RRV Pinot. Try some Roar from SLH instead. 

No point tying to change GregT's mind. He's a contrarian when it comes Pinot. But I concur on corks, even though I am not as sensitive as NG. 

On the other hand, "flaws" like Brett can, in small doses, be beneficial.

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Reply by zufrieden, Nov 18, 2012.

La Crema is not la crème de la crème, I grant you (and there seems to be some agreement here) but I don't like the grape enough to accept mediocrity - a disturbing New World  wobbling (or danse macabre, perhaps) from the great Burgundian forebears..

But La Crema is OK, and is palatable, true enough. 

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Reply by napagirl68, Nov 19, 2012.

LOL.. I found a 2010 La Crema Pinot that someone brought to my house at some point in time. Since it had been so long since I've tasted La Crema, and this thread brought it up, I decided to pop it open last night. 

OMG... WATERY is my review... no substance to this Pinot.   What a tease... it has a decent nose, nice clear red color, first millisecond of taste is good, tart red fruit, then it DIES.  DOA is my assessment of this wine.  I even let it open up for awhile... but you know, you just can't add substance.

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Reply by gregt, Nov 19, 2012.

Sounds like another excuse for Pinot Noir.

There's good Syrah and bad Syrah but there's not much Syrah that has to be excused.

PN?

DOA.

But really - this isn't what PN is really like! Really! It's better! Keep trying stuff until you find one that's good!

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Reply by napagirl68, Nov 19, 2012.

GregT- you're preaching to the choir here.   La Crema is not something I chose... gifted to me at some point, and yes, also chosen by me at various points in time, when in a restaurant/bar that offers nothing better.

I have tasted MANY amazing pinots, most small lots local to CA, and own a small fortune worth.

But I do agree with "keep trying stuff"... I plan to do that til the end.

As far as syrah, my issue is with big, over the top, tannic, fruit bomb syrahs.  I don't like those types of wine at all.  I am very particular with syrah.  I found one I liked in the last few years.... 2006 Balletto syrah (a cool weather syrah out of Sonoma cty...delicate with white pepper/bacon. )   Maybe the issue is I am drinking CA syrahs, which IMO, are not great.  Big Basin makes decent syrahs, but still huge for me.

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Reply by outthere, Nov 20, 2012.

Syrah - Copain, Halcon, Cabot, Arnot-Roberts, Wind Gap, Baker Lane = Cool climate, purity, low alcohol, balanced...

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