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Alsace Riesling

Posted by Richard M James, Oct 10, 2009.

A "groovy autumn find" from my site
2005 Riesling Domaine Dopff (Dopff au Moulin, 12.5%) - lovely nose with floral white peach and developing linseed oil notes; delicate yet quite intense mouthfeel moving on to oilier texture and flavours, and finishing with subtle underlying mineral bite. Drink now although it's still fresh enough to keep for a couple of years or so. €6.50 87-89
Any other Alsace Riesling fans out there?


Reply by dmcker, Oct 10, 2009.

Definitely a fan of Alsatian riesling, though I teethed on those from the Rhein, and Mosel-Saar-Ruhr. Have enjoyed the Dopff before, as well as those from several other houses. I very much appreciate the seer acidity, and disciplined definition of the varietal in Alsace. I also enjoy the Gewurztraminer there, too.

Any wines you particilarly like from Languedoc-Roussillon?

Welcome to Snooth.

Reply by penguinoid, Oct 10, 2009.

I've only tried Alsace Riesling only twice, but thoroughly enjoyed it. Both were at wine tastings.

I've tried (and thoroughly enjoyed) the 2007 Josmeyer Riesling

and the 2006 Domaine Zind-Humbrecht Riesling Turckheim

In both cases, I'd like to get hold of another bottle some time so I can re-evaluate it!

Reply by Richard M James, Oct 10, 2009.

"Any wines you particilarly like from Languedoc-Roussillon?"
Oh la la, as the French say (and they really do). Where to start? Here are a few highlights tasted recently anyway: Mas Mouriès "Les Myrthes" red (I was lucky enough to try a vertical of 2004 to 2000, all lovely), an extraordinary 1974 Terrassous "Rancio" Rivesaltes ambré Vin Doux Naturel, 2007 "Kerbuccio" red from Château Saint-Roch, just about everything from Coume del Mas (Collioure reds, white & rosé and Banyuls), Domaine La Sauvageonne's 2005 Puech de Glen, Château de Lancyre "Vieilles Vignes" red from the Pic Saint-Loup appellation, several 2008 Picpoul de Pinets - arguably the best whites from the Languedoc... I'd better stop there! Much much more L & R here: (apologies for the shameless plug). RMJ

Reply by dmcker, Oct 10, 2009.

What I've heard many times is more 'ooooh la la'... ;-)

I've always enjoyed the Collioure area. Any other recommendations for local vintners beyond the Coume del Mas?

I also enjoy the picpoul de pinets. Here's an earlier thread on food matching for the wine:

Reply by Greg Roberts, Oct 12, 2009.

I went to an Alsace tasting here a few weeks ago that was put on by the trade group for Alsace wines and had the opportunity to taste a wide range of varietals and styles: Riesling, Gewurz, Pinot Blanc, Pinot Gris and Pinot Noir, late harvest and grand crus... All the wines were paired with different foods underscoring the versatility of Alsace wines.

I tasted an excellent 100% Riesling crémant (most cremants d'Alsace are Pinot Blanc based) from Domaine André Dussourt. It’s aged 15 months ’sur latte’ and combined tart apple flavors with a slightly petrol finish.

Reply by Gregory Dal Piaz, Oct 12, 2009.

I love Boxler as a producer but the Trimback Clos St. Hune Riesling is one of the world's finest. There are many spirited discussion about whether Cuvee Frederic Emile might even be better. It's ultimately a matter of taste.

Looking forward to learning more about both Alsace and the Languedoc.

Reply by VegasOenophile, Oct 13, 2009.

Lucien Albrecht makes a great bargain Alsace riesling.

Reply by dmcker, Oct 13, 2009.

I have a couple of German friends who would, by reflex, tend to disagree with you about the Clos Ste. Hune, Greg, but I also like it very much. They've certainly been making it in the same family on that same specific plot of land for long enough to know how to get it right.

The Trimbach gewurtztraminer isn't too shabby, either. :-) I was introduced to that varietal via Hugel, but now automatically reach for the Trimbach. So much dryer, more restrained (yet with complex depths) than California versions I've encountered. I especially like their reserve or reserve personnelle (Cuvée des Seigneurs de Ribeaupierre) bottlings, but also enjoy the Vendanges Tardives and Selection de Grains Nobles as a pleasant change of pace from riesling late harvest/botrytised bottles.

If anyone can recommend a gewurtztraminer from the New World that approaches what Trimbach is able to do with the grape, I'd be grateful to hear about it/them...

Reply by cookypuss1, Oct 13, 2009.

Leon Beyer is my favorite Alsatian producer.

Reply by WineDineTV, Oct 16, 2009.

Domaine Weinbach among many others producing excellent Rieslings around Colmar. We visited several tiny tasting rooms in Alsace with exceptional good wines and wish we could find their Rieslings here in the US.

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