Wine advocate

• November 2009

  Juice on the Block" will be a collection of content about wine at auction. ... This is what the Wine Advocate had to say: “The 1995 and 1996 are two of the finest Glorias produced over recent vintages. Both the 1996 and 1995 are uncommonly hedonistic, plump, and... Read moreJuice on the Block" will be a collection of content about wine at auction. ... This is what the Wine Advocate had to say: “The 1995 and 1996 are two of the finest Glorias produced over recent vintages. Both the 1996 and 1995 are uncommonly hedonistic, plump, and precociously-styled wines. Low in acidity, rich in cedary, black currant fruit, medium-bodied, and lush, these two wines will provide delicious drinking young, yet both will age for 10-15 years. The 1995 is lower in acidity, and may not possess quite the density and power of the 1996, but readers looking for high class claret with immediate appeal would be foolish to pass it by.” ...Hence the Interest. Lot #53 Château Le Bon Pasteur - Vintage 1990
Pomerol, 
Five levels are high shoulder or better. Five labels are badly glue stained.
5 Bottles Estimated to sell between $260 - $400 Next Bid: 200 http://auction.morrellwineauctions.net/lotdescription.do?auctionId=251&page=6&lotId=98460 *Note the glue-stains and the not-so-perfect levels. These are important considerations and reflect that we’re not dealing with perfectly stored bottles here. It’s more of a gamble, but the levels being where they are, and the absence of any evidence of seepage- past or present- is a good thing and plays to our favor a bit. At most, I would bid the minimum of $200 and see if that makes me a winner. This one’s a bit of a gamble, but could pay a handsome reward. The Math: The current retail price for “pristine” bottles of the 1990 Le Bon Pasteur falls between $80 & $100 per bottle- which is quite high for a wine that may be drinking a tad past its prime (though noted as “Youthful” by Clive Coates in September of 2000). Hypothetical: Bid $200 and sit tight. Should you possess the winning bid for that amount, your total cost for the lot before tax would be $236, equaling $47.00 per bottle. That’s a considerable savings when compared to the pristine retail bottles within which the wine may be the very same. I am intrigued by this lot, but would keep that minimum bid on the table and back away should someone come in a tad higher. Sometimes, like Vegas, what you DON’T bid is what you win in the wine auction world, and bottles with conditions such as those pronounced in this lot could paint the clearest example of that thought in the long run. ...Or it could be one of the best deals in the sale. Lot #309 Château d'Issan - Vintage 2000
Margaux, Troisième Cru Classé
Excellent Appearance.
6 Bottles
"Medium-bodied, with sweet but noticeable tannin, and a dense finish that builds gradually and persistently, it appears to be the finest d'Issan produced in over four decades." 93 points, RMP. Estimated to sell between $240 - $350 Next Bid: $240 http://auction.morrellwineauctions.net/lotdescription.do?auctionId=251&page=31&lotId=98716 The Reason for interest: The vintage, the excellent condition, the math. The Math: It’s a 93-rated wine from Parker, though Mr. Coates didn’t quite agree and thought it only “pleasant, even elegant, but lacking a bit of concentration.” The 2000 Chateau D’Issan currently retails between $60 - $90. If we were to keep up with bidding and even space ourselves a bit by going to a max bid of $260, that would come to around $307 for the lot including premium & before taxes- breaking down to $51.00 per bottle. That’s a modest savings, but also a savings that bakes in the bidding to get to our max bid of $260. If we were to win the lot at an increment below that at $240 (which we’re positioning ourselves to have a shot at doing by our bid of $260)- we could walk away with a bottle price of around $47 before taxes for the six. Not half bad for a 93-rated 3rd growth from the 2000 vintage in Margaux, all things considered. Lot #313 Château Giscours - Vintage 2000
Margaux, Troisième Cru Classé
Excellent Appearance.
6 Bottles 
"Probably the finest Giscours made since the 1975, this black/purple-colored 2000 offers up terrific notes of camphor, creosote, blackberry, and cassis jam intermixed with notions of smoke and earth. Spicy, with low acidity, a big, rich, fleshy, full-bodied palate, outstanding texture, and a long, pure finish, it is, to reiterate, one of the best Giscours produced over the last 25 years. A sleeper of the vintage." 92 points, RMP. Estimated to sell between $240 - $350 Next Bid: $220 http://auction.morrellwineauctions.net/lotdescription.do?auctionId=251&page=32&lotId=98720 Reason for Interest: The vintage (2000, again), the appellation (Margaux, again), and the math. Again. The Math: The current retail value of the 2000 vintage Chateau Giscours comes in around $85.99 per bottle before tax. If we were to position our bid at $260, and win at that price, it would bring the cost of these six bottles to approximately $307 after premium, before tax. That comes out to just under $52 per bottle- and that’s if we win the lot with our max bid. If the bid were to be hammered at $220, that would bring things down significantly, to $43 per bottle. $43 for a bottle that received a warm 92 point rating from Parker, that is not only drinking very nicely now but should continue to do so for the next five years, according to Mr. Coates." ... "Lots of Interest" is just one of the aspects that we'll be presenting for the "Juice on the Block" group. As we get things put together for it, you can look forward to market news, wine opportunities for both selling as well as buying, profiles of legendary wines only available at auction, their makers, the auction houses where one can find them, and most importantly: how you can take advantage of the seemingly intimidating world of wine auctions- and make it your best place to shop. Hope to see you soon and that you come along for the ride! Chip !http://images.snooth.com/term/e/d/3/term_64414_full.1.jpeg    (hide)

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• November 2009

  The wine is a "2005 Clarendon Hills Hickinbotham Cabernet Sauvignon". And your ... had this to say, "Parker's Wine Advocate, in particular, favors a certain powerful style of wine that can at best lack nuance and at worst seem over the top. Big, extracted red wines tend to get... Read moreThe wine is a "2005 Clarendon Hills Hickinbotham Cabernet Sauvignon". And your ... had this to say, "Parker's Wine Advocate, in particular, favors a certain powerful style of wine that can at best lack nuance and at worst seem over the top. Big, extracted red wines tend to get higher scores than wines of similar quality made in other styles    (hide)

  Forum post in the topic Disparity of wine ratings by donccpa

  
  

• November 2009

  This is pretty common, but the spread here is quite wide. You have to remember ... that Robert Parker's Wine Advocate employs the wildly enthusiastic and non-discriminatory palate of a certain Dr. Jay Miller to promote the wines of Australia, as well as some other choice regions. I... Read moreThis is pretty common, but the spread here is quite wide. You have to remember ... that Robert Parker's Wine Advocate employs the wildly enthusiastic and non-discriminatory palate of a certain Dr. Jay Miller to promote the wines of Australia, as well as some other choice regions. I don't know what wine you are referring to but a good rule of thumb for the Wine Advocate's Australian reviews is to discount by 5 points. That gives you a score of 92 points. Roughly in the same ball park as the Specs score. It's quite likely that the wine in question is an over the top fruit bomb, which further explains the discrepancy here. So it's even more important to read the reviews. Is this a fruit bomb? Do you like fruit bombs? Is it restrained and elegant? Is that what you are looking for? Points are fun, and to a certain extent meaningless, though exceptionally good fodder for endless debates and discussions! I use them as a way to gauge the consistency of a reviewer, myself included, as opposed to a real definitive qualitative tool. So what's the wine and what's the price    (hide)

  Forum post in the topic Disparity of wine ratings by Gregory Dal Piaz

  
  

• October 2009

  I was just reviewing the latest update of wine advocate and was thinking about those high scores again as well. But at least it's not as bad a WS, which I've basically given up on completely. Zufrieden, makes a good point though. However, if that is the case then wouldn't it... Read moreI was just reviewing the latest update of wine advocate and was thinking about those high scores again as well. But at least it's not as bad a WS, which I've basically given up on completely. Zufrieden, makes a good point though. However, if that is the case then wouldn't it make sense to cut back on the score or risk destroying what the 100 point wine is supposed to represent. Just look at the ten 100 point wines that Parker published from the Southern Rhone. And what exactly equates to a 100 point wine? Just look at how many people are making the same statement of "I've had it, it's great, but 100 points?"    (hide)

  Forum post in the topic Are scores getting higher? by Eric Guido

  
  

• October 2009

  I just read this on wine access, and found it interesting. I love a full, ... points-- Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate Le Regalido in Fontvieille Sometimes the concierge gets it just right, and at the Crillon late last fall, she did. We were checking out, on our way to... Read moreI just read this on wine access, and found it interesting. I love a full, ... points-- Robert Parker, The Wine Advocate Le Regalido in Fontvieille Sometimes the concierge gets it just right, and at the Crillon late last fall, she did. We were checking out, on our way to Avignon, and asked her if she knew any place special in the south. She just smiled, pulled out an undersized piece of that incredible Crillon stationery, and with the silver pen wrote: "Le Regalido in Fontvieille. 30 minutes from Avignon. Don't miss the cassoulet!" The log fire was crackling in this 19th-century converted olive oil mill when we arrived. There were just 10 tables in the beautiful Provencal dining room with the stone-vaulted ceiling. The menu was mouth-watering, but we were doing as directed; we ordered the cassoulet all around. Jean-Pierre Michel's (or "JP" as he prefers to be called) cassoulet is no ordinary duck and white bean stew. It's a multi-day labor of love which begins by curing the pork belly and duck for three days. JP then slow cooks the duck legs into a fine confit with fresh thyme, parsley and peppercorns. Then he adds garden rosemary, tomato, white beans, the cured pork belly and sausage and simmers for two and a half hours. If ever a dish was designed for Chateauneuf, this was it. Unless you can do one better: match it with the 2007 Florianaelle from Jean-Marc Brun -- if you can find it. JP approaches cassoulet likes a conservator at the Musee D'Orsay restoring Manet's Luncheon On The Grass...meticulously calculating in every sleight of hand.    (hide)

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  September 2009

  Winemaker's Collection #1 Michel Rolland 2005

  Snoothrank: Starting at $56^.99

  Each year, always on the same terroir the one of Château d'Arsac in the Médoc ... potential: 6 to 10 years. Wine Advocate: 92-94 point

  Wine review by Philippine Joyaux

  
  
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  September 2009

  Winemaker's Collection Michel Rolland Cuvee 1

  Snoothrank:

  Each year, always on the same terroir the one of Château d'Arsac in the Médoc ... potential: 6 to 10 years. Wine Advocate: 92-94 point

  Wine review by Philippine Joyaux

  
  
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  September 2009

  Winemaker's Collection Michel Rolland Cuvee 1 2005

  Snoothrank:

  For the first episode of the Winemaker's Collection, Cuvée n°1, Michel ... potential: 6 to 10 years. Wine Advocate: 92-94 point

  Wine review by Philippine Joyaux

  
  

• August 2009

  I don't think it's a question of understanding the scale. We supply terms for ... at Average (75-79) from the wine advocate or 80-84 Good: a solid, well-made wine from the Wine Spectator. So that 2 glass rank can be represented by a 10 point spread. Now if we really , honestly... Read moreI don't think it's a question of understanding the scale. We supply terms for ... at Average (75-79) from the wine advocate or 80-84 Good: a solid, well-made wine from the Wine Spectator. So that 2 glass rank can be represented by a 10 point spread. Now if we really , honestly take a look at the Wine Advocate we'll have to admit that their published guidelines do not reflect the reality of the day, see ar scores getting higher thread! But still the point is that we allow people to interpret the Snoothrank in a rather liberal way. There are those who approach it analytically and those who approach it viscerally. The larger the data set for each wine the more they move to the mean. It is an imperfect system. But one that might be less imperfect than the opinion of a single man or panel tasting a wine at a single time. Having said that i will say that if I give a wine 90 point or more that means that, using the terminology of the Snoothrank, I love that wine.    (hide)

  Forum post in the topic Snooth rankings system by Gregory Dal Piaz

  
  

• August 2009

  I was wondering how the Snooth ranking for wines is arrived at, especially when ... Thomases (formerly of The Wine Advocate but now writing/reviewing for Veronelli) gives it a 96, a shocking score for a $35 wine..

  Forum post in the topic Snooth rankings system by dmcker

  
  

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