Wine Experts

Are they doing more harm than good?

 


One of my “jobs,” though more self-assigned than anything else, is to try and interest people in wine -- not just drinking wine, but talking about wine, reading about wine, and engaging with the wine world. One of my biggest obstacles? The wine world.

I am reminded almost daily what an insular, provincial bunch of blowhards we can be. It’s really just a microcosm of the greater world that surrounds us, though the narcissism, Napoleon complexes, and general sophomoric behavior does seem to proportionally exceed what one might expect to find amongst the general population. For now, I’ll attribute that perspective to the sheer amount of time I spend among these cretins.

So, why is it that so many people are battling for status in the wine world?
In a word or three, it’s because there is a seemingly simple but rigid hierarchy. For starters, there are those who know the “basic” facts: the first growths of Bordeaux, the Grand Cru vineyards of Burgundy, the cult winemakers of California. These are in general easily memorized facts that will instantly confer on you wine expert status from the 96% of the population who might now believe you know more than they do. Yes, you may in fact know more, but it’s fairly useless knowledge when you get into it.

Want to move into the next percentile? Well, it’s not terribly hard to do and there are many ways to do it! Why not start by drinking lots of old, expensive, or rare wine? That way the next time you are offered a taste of 1945 Mouton Rothschild, you can pithily opine on its relative merits while offering the oft-quoted disclaimer that while good, you’ve had better examples of this vintage. Who’s gonna argue with you? One of the other 4,000 people who’ve had the 45 Mouton on multiple occasions? For the sake of this discussion, I’ll go ahead and exclude the other 25,000 who have enjoyed multiple counterfeit bottles! Okay, folks. Simmer down. It’s just an educated guess.

Looking for another, more affordable route? How about just lying? Like I just said, the chance of running into someone who can challenge your opinions will be rare as hen’s teeth, and after all you’ll just be offering an opinion. Remember, wine is all about opinion; in fact, it’s pretty much only about opinion, with the exception of analytical analysis of things like residual sugar, tannin, acids, suspended dry matter. But we want to make sure people don’t discover that little factoid, so bullying is always a great way to come off as the unchallengeable expert. There are a whole lot of wine bullies out there -- there’s just so much information one can be super-confident and assertive about!

Alright, now what if you want to be better informed than 99% of the population? Well, now you’re getting into rather rarified territory, but you still have a pair of pathways open to you, education being the key to both.


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  • Snooth User: trappers
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    After 30+ years in the wine biz - mostly distribution, Southern California - I must admit to enjoying reading your article immensely. I think most of us in the wine world know just how boorish we are when together; it's how we treat the rest of the world that counts in the end. In retirement I am enjoying finding wonderful new wines every day, and sharing that knowledge with my friends. We just conducted a black glass tasting as a fund raiser for our church, and once again (I've done this a couple of times) had a great time watching all levels of wine drinkers be confounded as to what the wines are, even the color, let alone Old World/New World, varietal, vintage, etc. Not being able to see the wine and having all of them served at the same temperature - white, red, rose - can do that to you. It's all about enjoying the experience of good wine, trying different wines, and learning as much as you want (absolutely no one knows everything there is to know about wine). It is after all a subjective activity.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 1:15 PM


  • Snooth User: stretchmk
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    I read all the way through this article with very keen interest. I could debate at length and in depth every one of your points. But, you kept my interest. I had no doubt you were on track as your "Something Different" tag announces.

    In as few words as possible, I would like to explain my point of view, and throw in my 2 cents worth.

    Education techniques, and information availability has changed immensely over the past 30 years, but something important has not. In any endeavor that a person gets totally involved with, whether it wine loving, or race driving, or almost anything else, we all had a mentor, or a guru. Someone with superior knowledge or experience, and of course passion, who influenced our outlook and quest for knowledge.

    Our ability to self sufficiently raise the problem solving bar has increased immensely also. The perfect example is Microsoft Windows. All of us can maneuver through these programs adequately enough, mostly without any formal training, or courses. We tough our way through, and figure out what to do.

    How does this relate to the wine world? I don't know anyone who followed your steps to get to the 99% you talk about. I have thousands of wine friends and have probably tasted 20,00 wines. I have had one First growth Bordeaux, which is probably near the average for most of my colleagues. On top of that we don't even care about First growths, or cult wines. I have spoken less than 20 words with a sommelier in my life. What was a benchmark 30 years ago is hardly relevant today.

    By far a vast majority of tasting experiences are taste first, learn later, or least with the wine in your mouth. The entity pouring and showing is much more interested if you like the taste, then if you know the difference between a Chianti, and a Barolo.

    So what? Experience is the word. The same pragmatic intelligence that allows us to learn our I Phone apps, relates to our ability to emerge our palates into the wine world. The general wine public is not reading books or magazines, but drinking and tasting. There are enough competent wine pouring establishments in any given area, that the public's knowledge and sophistication has increased incredibly, usually only under the tutelage of a moderately experienced wine store/bar manager, or bartender. Just doing, is getting it done.

    When I started learning about wine, we read Michael Broadbent, now we watch Gary Vanerchuck. There is a huge difference. Nuff said for now

    Mar 08, 2011 at 1:25 PM


  • Snooth User: RachelG
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    Loved the article! Thanks and I here on out PROMISE to not talk behind the backs of my guests when they ask for a "White Zin, side of ice." Instead I will serve their request with a smile and offer a tasting of another wine they may like to broaden their tastebuds.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 2:55 PM


  • "Yes, because of you there, you drinking the obscure biodynamic wines made by one-armed hermaphrodites on a deserted island made of a solid block of limestone using the fruit from a single 2,100-year-old vine." All I can say is that is awesome! I am a new comer to the wine industy and am planning to start writing a blog about my adventures in starting in the industry. The blog will have a strong focus on debunking the myth of wine being an exclusive club for the pretentiious and elitist. Let me just say that I love this post and hope to inspire the same "revolution" in my surroundings.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 3:22 PM


  • Snooth User: cjscar
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    The only thing I can claim to know about wine is....what I like, period. I drink what I like with costs running from a paltry $4 to a mega $125 per.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 4:20 PM


  • Taste Saint Emilion Chateau Larroque Grand Cru and telll me your opinion. This is very different. Howeber Rotschild house are big winnery and his wines reputed arround the world.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 4:47 PM


  • Snooth User: Constance Chamberlain
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    this article fits perfectly inline with the thoughts I've been having lately. love it.
    let's drink wine :)

    Mar 08, 2011 at 5:23 PM


  • Snooth User: mjayup
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    Good riddle Greg! One thing is immediately real to the sight: we all like the many faces and styles of wine. Here and there you get a new refreshing glass of a good, outrageous and bad wine, a cheap,a great value,a bad value too. There are also many consumers, lovers, aficionado of wines too. So this wine world as every world else is no much than a part of the same world. I appreciate your snooth and all the culinary stuff related. I feel it more confortable than other media guys. Congratulations.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 5:35 PM


  • Snooth User: mcareb
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    My Mother started me drinking Spanish Wines many many years ago and I still find myself looking for the next great bargain. Sometime ago I visited a wine shop and was impressed with his selection of fine wines but do not live in the town so I picked out case of inexpensive Spanish wine for dear old Mom. The wine snob sales person said "you came to this shop to buy that wine?". To this day I am sorry that I did not leave without the wine but be assured that I refuse to return and have told numerous others not to and why. P.S. Mom loved the wine. Great article I hope some get the message.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 5:59 PM


  • Slow Clap, right now. Who's with me? ... anyone ... anyone .. Buehler!?

    Mar 08, 2011 at 6:04 PM


  • I've tried, on numerous occasions,to get the Silver Oak crowd to try some other cabs, to no avail. In fact, they get rather testy when I dare to suggest the world outside of this winery. I have found it is best to shut up and smile, knowingly.
    It has taken me the better part of 10 years to convince my brother that there are wines above the $10.00 that are worth wile. He being an accountant, it was a tough job. Finally I sent him a 96 Opus for his birthday. This being one of the few good vintages, in my opinion, of the wine. It worked, in April we will meet in Sonoma,for April in Caneros, he still doesnt want to spend much on tastings, and one full day in Rutherford and Calistoga. I have a trade tasting for him at Chappellette, David Arthur, and Pina. Hope he understands the barrel tastings. Sonoma will be mostly Pinot and Chards.Wish me luck, Ive found some one who will not stand on his old ways and allow me to educate him. Next, mmmm, maybe a trip to Alsace, Germany and France.
    Its fun when the listen and then get the bug. To the other responder that down played First Growth, sorry guy, but you are missing some very fine wines from Bordeaux, and Burgundy.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 6:14 PM


  • (sigh) Guess that really does work better in person. Anyhoo, I truly am jealous of your article. You summed up, quite beautifully I might add, so many of my feelings. Well Played Sir!

    Mar 08, 2011 at 6:16 PM


  • Knowledge is power as they say and wine knowledge is a particular kind of social power that carries with it immense mystery. As with any commodity in the hands of the few, it can be wielded in very improper ways. Share the wealth is what I think you are saying.

    I'm trying. Throwing a wine party next week where we will brown bag 16 pinot noirs from around the world and rate them in a Sweet 16 bracketology tournament. Most of the attendees fall into your description of knowledge-cravers. The idea is to make it fun and to have someone on hand who can give enough trivia about pinot to inspire the self education that inevitably must follow, but not to be an oracle of the boring.

    Great stuff.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 6:19 PM


  • Snooth User: TRRiley
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    I'm glad to see we are on the same wavelength. Today at work, the owner of the wine shop and I were discussing this very thing: how to reduce the mystery and sense of elitism, what to do about people being intimidated by wine. For those of us who are not snobs, who drink globally at all levels, what can we do spread the word and help out those who want more from the world of wine? Your essay is a great start and filled with some great advice. Thanks for such a sharp and honest essay.

    Mar 08, 2011 at 6:33 PM


  • Snooth User: winetastinginLA
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    I'm not a wine snob and I want to share my wine with you. I say let's have a wineolicious party. We can start today, after all it's Mardi Gras.... then comes St. Patrick's day, so I don't think we need an excuse to share right?

    Mar 08, 2011 at 7:00 PM


  • Snooth User: TRRiley
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    mcareb -- if the wine you were denigrated for buying was so horrible, why did the snobby shop owner have it in stock? Some people are complete chowderheads (for lack of a more inappropriate word).

    Mar 08, 2011 at 7:41 PM


  • Snooth User: hanksfam
    793563 1

    I like it! I made the decision to make some purchases on line by reading the stories behind them. It's been fun... and I've made good and bad purchases. But as you said... that's only my view. But I've had fun every mouthful! I have no designs on being so edumacated that I can't enjoy the company that comes with making wine my hobby. I thoroughly applaud the idea of anyone passing a glass of what ever they enjoy to help me along my journey, however!!! :)

    Mar 08, 2011 at 7:58 PM


  • Snooth User: burgboy
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    Loved this article. My best answer to my inquiring wine newbies is "drink what you enjoy". Taste preferences will change as their palates mature.
    Beviamo!!

    Mar 08, 2011 at 8:30 PM


  • Enjoyed the article over a delightful Pinor. I am interested in doing wine demonstrations for distributors now that I am retired. I have been reading about wines for a year and continue to learn via internet and books. Suggestions on who to contact in the North Subs of Chicago? Keep up the great words and I will continue to enjoy wine.

    Mar 09, 2011 at 1:56 AM


  • Snooth User: iwc2ufan99
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    Great article! For years I didn't really drink wine because I felt like I didn't know much and *did* associate the wine world with snobs and people that looked down on you if you drank the wrong thing. I'm so glad I got over it and just decided to try lots of things till I found what I liked. I do have definite opinions about wine now and know things, I think, at this point, but practical things, like which wines that I can get around the corner do I like and what they go with, which regions I prefer, etc. I think I've got a reasonable palate too, so I can describe what I'm drinking well enough. It's not hard to learn those sorts of things and I wish more people knew that it's just a question of trying more and that great wine doesn't have to be expensive. I mean, honestly, I love the stuff, but at the end of the day, it's a form of a juice of a very common fruit. If others want to pay 100s for some rare biodynamic bottle that's been aged for 7 years, that's great, but I'm happy with a nice bottle of Chilean red from a major vineyard from 2009 that I can get for £8 or maybe a nice South African chenin blanc, that could cost as little as £5. And there's nothing wrong with that. :)

    Also, completely agreed burgbo - my tastes have changed quite a bit since I started drinking wine. It's just natural as you experience more that you realise something you liked before might just be alright, but not because it was horrible, just because you have found the wine that is really right for your tastes.

    Mar 09, 2011 at 5:30 AM


  • This was one of the best rants I've read in a long time. I think the elite "snobs" took over a long time ago and learned that quickly. When my wife and I discovered wine only a few years back, we found that when we would want to learn more and talk to more experienced people, there were two groups: the group that helped nuture us and introduce us to better wines and understanding and the group that basically would scoff since they were "better" than us. We vowed never to be like that and over time, defined ourselves as "unpretenious wine geeks" to distinguish from the snobs. I like the "philanthropy" term though, and may have to consider it.
    As a quick story, I golf. I golf with my father-in-law often. And we will usually pair up with another random twosome at the course. And one piece of advice he always gives when seeing a new golfer who isn't very good - Don't get annoyed by the new golfer who is having trouble. You didn't pick up the club the first time and drive the ball 300 yards. Everyone has to start sometime and somewhere.
    It applies to wine as well.

    Mar 09, 2011 at 6:46 AM


  • As an aspiring wine snob, I read your article with keen interest. (If you didn't feel the sarcasm dripping from that first sentence then stop reading now!) Although highly judgmental in many places, replete with generalizations and stereotypes, your tongue-in-cheek approach and strategically placed apologies kept me interested. It is a well written and very appealing rant. Your place on the soapbox was much earned and deserved.

    Seriously, I am in the throes of educating myself about wine and have been on both ends of the wine snob spectrum. Neither is worthy of the fruit of such a humble vine and really distracts from the total wine-drinking experience, which, for me, goes far beyond the consumption of fermented grape juice. Occasionally I have been known to use my limited expertise to strongly suggest a wine during a dinner outing. Whether you call that snobbery or not is up to you but I'm sure some around the table thought it was. At other times, I have made serious wine-related gaffes only to be chastised or ridiculed publicly. My favorite one was at the Franciscan Winery in St. Helena, CA. While tasting one of their wines I asked what cassis was and drew an immediate snicker and scowl from the guy behind the bar as he muttered something under his breath. I continued with my wine tasting while listening for gasps of shock from fellow tasters that I was so uneducated. As I was about to leave, and in retribution, I pointed out to him that his sign on the counter that used the word 'segway' was not about a two-wheeled motorized tour around the vineyard but about a transition from one topic to another. He didn't grasp his misuse of the trademarked word 'Segway' with 'segue' so while I got educated about what cassis is, he continued in his ignorance borne of an attitude of false superiority.

    I can laugh at myself far easier than I can laugh at another. That to me is the mark of humility and the mastery of those snobbish tendencies that emerge frequently. Hopefully my future experiences will include much more self deprecation and a lot less snobbery on anyone's part.

    "A well stocked wine cellar promotes civility like sober diplomacy never can."

    Mar 09, 2011 at 8:49 AM


  • Its about time someone wrote this down. As an educator both in the classroom and the tasting room, my goal is to help create great consumers. You have captured the philosophy I follow on a daily basis. I strive to help people educate themselves, to seek out information, to broaden their wine experiences and I regularly send them on to other wineries whose offerings are much different than what I have to pour. It is OK to not enjoy every wine you put into your mouth. Some folks will never love white wine, some will not love red, but there is something out there they WILL like and I want to help them figure out what it is.
    The more people enjoying and consuming wine each day, the better my odds of continued and more work! I love this industry and yearn to help others feel the same way.
    Bottoms up!

    Mar 09, 2011 at 9:46 AM


  • Well done! Seven years ago I was hired to fly around the world and film winemakers and vineyards for an "exclusive" wine club. I liked wine, and had been involved in creating an online "Wine 101" course in Boston back in 2001. But what I encountered on those trips blew away every preconception I had about the wine world at large. It was an absolute blast, and the "experts" we met were hospitable and humble beyond compare. And they were all nuts. Since then I have poured most of my effort - and money - into promoting the real side of wine: the passion and humility of winemakers, the camaraderie of winery travel and touring, the frenzied rush of harvest, the joy of sharing wine at the table with friends and great food. That's what wine is about. It's definitely not about points. It's too bad that there is still the notion that wine experts are snobs. Snobs are the minority, and cheers to Snooth for reminding your readers of that fact. The Revolution is underway.

    Mar 09, 2011 at 11:02 AM


  • Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz
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    Thanks for all the feedback folks. I am loving it!

    I've got a plan in the works, and I hope you can help with some of the details.

    I'll circle back to each of you soon, but just wanted to say thanks, and what great responses!

    Mar 09, 2011 at 11:23 AM


  • If you are in the Saint Louis, Missouri, metro area, I'd be glad to share my mine with you! I work at Saint Louis Cellars.

    I write a blog for Saint Louis Cellars to educate new wine enthusiasts; I assist customers in wine selections in the retail store; I serve at the tasting table; and I am part of the special events team for private parties and business events.

    http://saintlouiscellarsthecrushpad...

    Mar 09, 2011 at 3:09 PM


  • Great article Greg. Thanks a lot

    Mar 09, 2011 at 6:01 PM


  • I wonder if the snobbery has to do with money. I agree that most winemakers I know aren't snobs, but they're also mostly broke, certainly all the small wineries that own their own vines :) As you said, we do it for love. We sure as heck don't do it for money :)

    Mar 09, 2011 at 6:05 PM


  • Snooth User: zinfandel1
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    Unfortunately, the reader response leaves me with nothing else to add. Simply put, a great article.

    Mar 10, 2011 at 8:38 AM


  • Kudos, Greg, on hitting the nail (et al) on the head! I started with Mateus (and Segesta) early in life. First had Sutter Home White Zinfandel (which reputedly saved a lot of the California vineyards) in 1974 (or was it '72?). Wine snobs wear tees like "Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel." As a wine "facilitator" I ask people to tell me their reaction to the wine, not what mine is. I like your expressed philosophy - Great Minds Think Alike (lol). Captain Zinfandel

    Mar 10, 2011 at 12:52 PM


  • Snooth User: habap
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    Once, at a French wine conference, the instructor of a blind tasting class told us, "If you're not tasting what I'm tasting, you're wrong." Needless to say, my estimation of her talent as an instructor evaporated.

    When I pour tastings, I always try to teach people about the wines by talking about the region, the grapes, and such. At that same conference, Paul Wagner spoke about how people connect with a wine and... it's not by learning the cepage or knowing how many months it spent in French or American oak, but by learning a _story_ about the wine. In a sense, sharing a bottle of French wine can be like a 2-drink vacation in France for a couple, so telling them the story of the label, perhaps, will give them more enjoyment at the time you sell them the bottle and again when they drink it, than anything else (other than the taste of the wine itself, of course!)

    Knowing the story of that wine gives them confidence and, in a world with too many wine snobs, giving the average consumer that confidence does make a difference.

    Mar 11, 2011 at 11:40 AM


  • Snooth User: rolifingers
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    Thank you Greg, you are a man after my own heart. This article is very informative.

    It actually reminds me of an article I read a few years back re: the musical instrument retail business ( probably in Guitar Player Magazine ),where the writer was frowning upon music store owners rejoicing over someone walking into their shop and selling all of their equipment for practically nothing and giving up on their musical dreams.

    The writers gripe was " why rejoice, the musical instrument retail world has just lost a customer, never again to shop in a music store "

    The same thing can happen with wine customers,You can intimidate them with sommelier jargon in articles, as well as in wine shops, and people will be to scared to set foot in a wine shop for fear of a pompous wine salesperson approaching them and making them feel stupid!

    Mar 12, 2011 at 1:10 AM


  • There is definitely an inherent problem with people who "live" wine. And it is not always a question of character for the person who is coming off as a snob. More often than not, they probably are, but sometimes just knowing a lot of the facts makes you sound like an ass when speaking about it. It can sometimes be tough to gage your audience; you don't want to be condescending but you also don't want to be bullied by a "know it all." I love being involved with geeky conversations about enzyme structures of what yeast is used during fermentation, mineral contents of land, and blah blah blah because it brings new ideas to the table, but these are personal conversations not to be smothered onto people that are only interested in the end game; drinking.

    I, too, find meeting winemakers the most interesting part of wine. You get to meet the great-grandfather who just turned 100 years old and swears by at least 1 bottle of wine a day. You can also find the complete opposite with a winemaker. They can even be king/queen of the 'know it alls.' So far stuck up their own arse, i'm appalled that feces aren't in the tasting notes.

    I'm getting away from the point. The bottom line, in my opinion, is that all drinkers should be playing in the same band. Sure, there is a ton of competition out there between producers, retailers, restaurants, etc but as drinkers, you should be doing so to enjoy. You should be promoting 2 simple ideas and as a result, there is a good chance you won't sound like the snob that Greg so eloquently described: 1) drink to enjoy and 2) trust your palate to find those wines that YOU will enjoy. Like Greg also said, so much of this is opinion. If you spend your whole life following what someone else thinks, there is a possibility that you might not ever enjoy wine. Sure you might look cool amongst friends and piers because you tasted a really obscure wine, but what is the point, if you didn't enjoy it.

    To conclude, my family's philosophy on life. "You are eating and drinking anyway. There is no reason not to do it well"

    Enjoy!

    Mar 14, 2011 at 12:10 PM


  • Snooth User: rolifingers
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    Amen!

    Mar 14, 2011 at 1:46 PM


  • Snooth User: Stephen Harvey
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    Greg

    For what could be classified as a bad hair day rant, that was a very interesting article and your points well made.

    Wine experts like all self professed experts love to intimidate others by wielding their big stick of knowledge.

    At the end of the day we drink wine because we enjoy it and we spend what we can afford [mostly]

    it is the point of budget restrictions which seems to go missing on many wine experts - who generally do not pay of the wonderful wines they get to indulge in and them have the audacity to suggest the rest of us are either a wine moron or wine neanderthal because we actually enjoy something we can afford.

    I think the term Wine Wanker is a more appropriate description of some of these people!!!

    Mar 15, 2011 at 4:27 AM


  • Snooth User: rolifingers
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    I concur SH, well said.

    Mar 15, 2011 at 8:51 AM


  • Snooth User: Gregory Dal Piaz
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    Hey folks,

    Sorry I've been away for the past several days and have not had the time to follow up here, not that I have the time this morning!

    I just wanted to thank you all for such heartfelt responses. Yes it might have been a bad hair day rant! But the truth is that much of the wine world, media and 'experts' in particular are preaching tot he choir.

    They just don't get it. I'm not going to change the wine world, but I hope maybe I can nudge it back on the right path!

    I will come back later and reflect on some of the responses, but now I'm off to save to world! Which in reality means type up another rantish piece, then hours of tasting notes, have some coffee, and buy a sweater.

    Mar 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM


  • Snooth User: rolifingers
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    Sounds good GDP.

    Mar 15, 2011 at 9:41 AM


  • Snooth User: JRFranks
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    This is a very straight-forward and objective look at this part of the wine culture in this country. I agree with Dal Piaz in that there are too many elements of selecting wine that are inconsistent in the reality of picking a good one. My wife and I enjoy most moderately priced wines on a regular basis and have found treasures ourselves even in our own grocery store.
    On the other hand after reading about a 'special' wine, hyped by a critic in either a wine or foodie periodical or a radio or TV show, we have often gone on a safari to find a certain bottle or two from coast to coast (our business allows us to travel alot) only to find this so-called 'treasure' very disappointing. We live in California and have found the very best of our modest collection that we enjoy regulary from selections we have made tasting them in Napa/Sonoma. My advice is to find out the dealers that do wine tastings in your area and select by taste not by hype. Liquor and wine dealers often buy up hundreds of cases of wines and hype the grape out of them for quick profit without letting you taste them...avoid buying without tasting and your disappointments will be fewer.

    Mar 15, 2011 at 2:58 PM


  • Snooth User: messygonzo
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    this article fits perfectly inline with the thoughts I've been having lately. love it.
    let's drink wine :)

    Aug 02, 2013 at 5:58 AM


  • Snooth User: CarBuyWhiz
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    really good

    Aug 17, 2013 at 2:27 AM


  • good one

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  • brilliant

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  • Extraordinary

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  • Snooth User: jamchimps
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    Thats superb...

    Oct 28, 2013 at 2:22 AM


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    Thats impressive

    Apr 04, 2014 at 4:55 AM


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