Old Vine Chilean Carignan

An emerging wine region with a lot to offer

 


Sometimes, I’m not exactly sure what my job is here at Snooth. I do get to review wine, which many people think is a glamorous and desirable thing to do. The truth is, it’s just a great vehicle for pissing people off. I can piss off producers by either not reviewing their wines or not reviewing their wines well, and I can piss off the consumers. Man, there are a lot of ways to piss off one’s audience. Insult favorite wines, recommend wines that are too expensive or too cheap, recommend wines before they have reached the market or, even worse, wines that don’t make it to their market or local corner store.

And then there is the issue of reviewing wines that, for the most part, no one knows about and are certainly not widely distributed, if they are distributed at all. Today, I’m talking about Old Vine Carignan from Chile, and I am about to ruin someone’s day. I’ve scored several of these wines lower than any producer might like, but the real problem is coming down the pike because these wines are generally not available. So, I’m going to hear it.

But what if no one wrote about the wines we didn’t know about? How would we find out about them? Is my job really only to try to pair you up with wines that you like that are already at your local store? Aren’t we all curious? Don’t we want more diversity in wines? Don’t we want to support emerging regions, particularly when the proceeds help sustain a viticultural jewel like these wines?

That’s a lot of questions, so I’ll stop and let you catch your breath. Still, I’m going to march ahead and talk about wines you can’t buy and wines you very well might not even know about, if only to see if I can pique some interest. Perhaps, I will get someone to ask about these wines or call the importer and have them sent to your neck of the woods. Or maybe, someone will at least call a store that carries some and try a few.

It’s all too easy to dismiss some emerging regions because they are dominated by big players, but that is usually how emerging regions find their way into new markets. You might think it’d be smaller shop owners and wine writers diligently writing about their latest discoveries, but those discoveries are usually dismissed as being too expensive, too unknown, and too, well, “if I can’t get it HERE, why should I care?”

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That opens the doors for people with resources to come in and establish the ground rules for the game that people who own Old Vine Carignan have to play by, so I break the rules. I write about things you can’t buy in the hope that you might do something to make these wines more widely available. Complaining to me is not going to get that done, folks!


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Comments

  • Snooth User: tkscot
    950474 18

    The most verbose, repetitive review I have ever read (I didn't read it all, I have a life to lead and I haven't the time to cut through the greenery to get to the grapes) and the language, not to mention the grammar, left a lot to be desired. Here was an opportunity to talk about a very unique wine out of Chile, and all we get is verbiage.

    Sep 04, 2012 at 9:37 PM


  • Snooth User: EMark
    Hand of Snooth
    847804 7,333

    While I agree that the preamble to this report might be described as wordy, overally, i found it to be very informative. And, recalling a Carignan, discussion over on the Forum from a couple weeks ago, timely. (OK, grammar nazis, I know that was not a sentence.) I enjoyed this report, and I will look for Chilean old vine Carignans at the purveyors that I frequent. It is clear that there are wines here that I would enjoy.

    Sep 06, 2012 at 7:30 PM


  • Snooth User: ganzua
    Hand of Snooth
    56068 53

    cri cri cri

    Sep 06, 2012 at 8:56 PM


  • Snooth User: Nerdmom920
    1137005 145

    This is a warning to complacent and well-educated wine drinkers. Heed the tragic tale of American beer. We ignored craft brewers and made doing business so difficult for them that one by one they fell off until all we had were giant mega-corps producing pale, lifeless lagers. It's only recently, fighting tooth and nail, that beer hand crafted, and with an eye for flavor over raking in money had a resurgence in this country. Now those mega-corps are struggling to keep up with the craft brewers. At least twice a week at work I have people coming in begging for some beer they've heard of, read about, or imbibed while on vacation that they want to buy locally, but we don't carry. I tell them to order from the brewery, call the distributor, get the name out, and maybe we can get it. I don't hear complaints from them, I see a twinkle of fight in their eyes! Wine drinkers should not rest on their laurels lest they find themselves over run by the Arbor Mists of the world. It can happen.

    Sep 29, 2012 at 7:46 PM


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    1331306 37

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    Aug 14, 2013 at 12:12 AM


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    1338755 33

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    1339624 38

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    Sep 07, 2013 at 4:56 AM


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    1339865 37

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    1341059 34

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    Sep 11, 2013 at 1:02 AM


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    Sep 11, 2013 at 4:39 PM


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    Sep 12, 2013 at 9:33 AM



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    Sep 18, 2013 at 4:06 AM


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    Sep 19, 2013 at 3:11 AM



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    Sep 19, 2013 at 3:29 AM


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    Sep 20, 2013 at 1:23 AM


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    1368891 18

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    Sep 20, 2013 at 4:36 AM


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    Sep 20, 2013 at 10:48 AM


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    1370044 33

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    Sep 23, 2013 at 12:56 AM


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    1369283 31

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    1372394 30

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    Sep 30, 2013 at 2:22 AM


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    1379445 33

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    Oct 07, 2013 at 12:10 AM


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    1380229 34

    This is a warning to complacent and well-educated wine drinkers. Heed the tragic tale of American beer. We ignored craft brewers and made doing business so difficult for them that one by one they fell off until all we had were giant mega-corps producing pale, lifeless lagers. It's only recently, fighting tooth and nail, that beer hand crafted, and with an eye for flavor over raking in money had a resurgence in this country.

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    Oct 09, 2013 at 10:53 PM


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    1380622 37

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    Oct 10, 2013 at 2:06 AM


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    1385272 33

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    Oct 21, 2013 at 11:04 PM


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    1385782 33

    This is a warning to complacent and well-educated wine drinkers. Heed the tragic tale of American beer. We ignored craft brewers and made doing business so difficult for them that one by one they fell off until all we had were giant mega-corps producing pale, lifeless lagers. It's only recently, fighting tooth and nail, that beer hand crafted, and with an eye for flavor over raking in money had a resurgence in this country.

    Oct 23, 2013 at 5:17 AM


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    1390221 33

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    Oct 31, 2013 at 12:00 AM


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    Nov 04, 2013 at 3:16 AM


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    Nov 05, 2013 at 12:58 AM


  • While I agree that the preamble to this report might be described as wordy, overally, i found it to be very informative.

    Nov 05, 2013 at 12:58 AM



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    Nov 07, 2013 at 4:19 AM


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    1400658 33

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    Nov 08, 2013 at 12:18 AM


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    Nov 08, 2013 at 5:05 AM



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    Nov 09, 2013 at 5:07 AM


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    1400671 35

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    1409982 34

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    1410141 35

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    Nov 19, 2013 at 4:59 AM


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    Nov 26, 2013 at 1:32 AM


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    Dec 11, 2013 at 4:41 AM




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    Dec 12, 2013 at 1:00 AM


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    Dec 12, 2013 at 1:40 AM


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    Dec 13, 2013 at 3:57 AM


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    Dec 15, 2013 at 11:15 PM



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    Dec 16, 2013 at 12:31 AM


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    1426660 34

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    1426660 34

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    1451630 33

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    Jan 09, 2014 at 11:59 PM


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    1454655 32

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    1454655 32

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    1456192 32

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    1456192 32

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    1460203 33

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    Jan 29, 2014 at 2:20 AM


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    1460203 33

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    Feb 01, 2014 at 1:40 AM


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    1461497 33

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    Feb 01, 2014 at 4:53 AM


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    1461497 33

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    Feb 04, 2014 at 12:25 AM



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    Feb 04, 2014 at 12:25 AM


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    Feb 04, 2014 at 12:56 AM



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    Feb 06, 2014 at 1:01 AM



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    Feb 06, 2014 at 1:02 AM


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    Feb 23, 2014 at 10:47 PM


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    Feb 23, 2014 at 10:48 PM



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    Feb 24, 2014 at 12:20 AM



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    Feb 24, 2014 at 12:21 AM


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    1471719 32

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    1471719 32

    wonderful

    Feb 24, 2014 at 1:02 AM


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    1474329 33


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    Mar 03, 2014 at 4:01 AM


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    1474329 33



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    Mar 03, 2014 at 4:01 AM


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    1475372 33


    Helpful...!!

    Mar 06, 2014 at 2:29 AM


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    1475796 33

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    1475796 33

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    Mar 07, 2014 at 5:07 AM


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    1476154 33

    This is a warning to complacent and well-educated wine drinkers.

    Mar 08, 2014 at 1:24 AM


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    1476154 33

    Thats astounding...

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    1476950 33

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    1476950 33

    wonderful

    Mar 10, 2014 at 12:04 AM



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    Mar 11, 2014 at 12:59 AM



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    Mar 11, 2014 at 1:00 AM


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    1484172 33

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    Mar 28, 2014 at 3:11 AM


  • Snooth User: popcornpop
    1484172 33

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    Mar 28, 2014 at 3:13 AM




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    Mar 28, 2014 at 4:38 AM




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    Mar 28, 2014 at 4:38 AM



  • Thats breathtaking...

    Mar 31, 2014 at 5:37 AM



  • Genius.

    Mar 31, 2014 at 5:37 AM


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    Apr 04, 2014 at 12:52 AM


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    Apr 04, 2014 at 12:53 AM


  • Snooth User: jumboneedy
    1487285 34



    Thats extremely good

    Apr 04, 2014 at 2:40 AM


  • Snooth User: jumboneedy
    1487285 34



    Cooler

    Apr 04, 2014 at 2:41 AM


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    1487781 34

    Its incredibly good :)

    Apr 05, 2014 at 4:44 AM


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    1487781 34

    Its really good

    Apr 05, 2014 at 4:45 AM


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    1488585 33


    Thats cool...

    Apr 07, 2014 at 1:14 AM


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    1488585 33



    Really good...!!

    Apr 07, 2014 at 1:14 AM


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    1488598 33

    Thats calme...

    Apr 07, 2014 at 2:24 AM


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    1488598 33

    Its exceptional

    Apr 07, 2014 at 2:24 AM


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    1488586 33

    Thats breathtaking...

    Apr 07, 2014 at 2:32 AM


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    1488586 33

    Thats astonishing

    Apr 07, 2014 at 2:32 AM


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    1489014 34

    Its trendy

    Apr 08, 2014 at 4:44 AM


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    1493754 32


    Its grand :)

    Apr 19, 2014 at 2:08 AM


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    1493740 33

    Thats astounding...

    Apr 19, 2014 at 3:05 AM


  • Snooth User: rabbitspot
    1493740 33

    Thats astonishing

    Apr 19, 2014 at 3:05 AM


  • Thats incredible

    Apr 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM


  • Superior

    Apr 20, 2014 at 11:43 PM




  • Its cooler :)

    Apr 21, 2014 at 1:25 AM



  • Hip...!!


    Apr 21, 2014 at 1:26 AM


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    1494537 34

    wonderful

    Apr 21, 2014 at 3:01 AM


  • Snooth User: brothgoose
    1494537 34

    great

    Apr 21, 2014 at 3:01 AM


  • Snooth User: pasttile
    1496873 33

    Thats beneficial

    Apr 26, 2014 at 1:11 AM


  • Snooth User: pasttile
    1496873 33

    Thats impressive...

    Apr 26, 2014 at 1:12 AM


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    1496881 32

    super

    Apr 26, 2014 at 2:50 AM


  • Snooth User: frombask
    1496881 32

    good

    Apr 26, 2014 at 2:51 AM





  • Incredibly good

    Apr 29, 2014 at 3:04 AM


  • Outstanding

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:35 AM


  • Its breathtaking

    Apr 29, 2014 at 4:36 AM


  • Snooth User: furiousloo
    1498002 33

    Awe-inspiring...!!

    May 01, 2014 at 11:12 PM


  • Snooth User: furiousloo
    1498002 33

    Thats impressive...

    May 01, 2014 at 11:12 PM


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    1501318 36

    nice

    May 08, 2014 at 2:35 AM


  • Thats awe-inspiring...

    May 08, 2014 at 6:06 AM


  • This is a warning to complacent and well-educated wine drinkers.

    May 08, 2014 at 6:07 AM


  • Snooth User: burylot
    1501708 36

    great

    May 09, 2014 at 1:30 AM




  • Breathtaking...!!

    May 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM



  • Its remarkable :)


    May 19, 2014 at 11:12 PM


  • Snooth User: roastspry
    1506225 31

    Fabulous...!!

    May 21, 2014 at 11:56 PM


  • Extremely good

    May 22, 2014 at 3:20 AM


  • Great...!!

    May 22, 2014 at 3:20 AM



  • Magnificent...!!

    May 27, 2014 at 1:39 AM



  • Grand...!!

    May 27, 2014 at 1:39 AM


  • Snooth User: tilegroin
    1510117 33

    Really good...!!

    Jun 05, 2014 at 5:51 AM


  • Snooth User: tilegroin
    1510117 33

    Grand...!!

    Jun 05, 2014 at 5:52 AM


  • Snooth User: boxingneat
    1511418 30

    Thats striking

    Jun 10, 2014 at 12:57 AM


  • Snooth User: boxingneat
    1511418 30

    Grand...!!

    Jun 10, 2014 at 12:58 AM


  • Its impressive :)

    Jun 10, 2014 at 6:10 AM



  • Thats really good

    Jun 11, 2014 at 12:40 AM



  • Its superb :)


    Jun 11, 2014 at 12:41 AM



  • Wonderful

    Jun 12, 2014 at 1:26 AM


  • WHY ARE THE TOP COMMENTS THE SAME?!

    Jun 12, 2014 at 1:28 AM


  • Snooth User: hoopssnow
    1511940 50

    Thats good

    Jun 12, 2014 at 1:47 AM


  • Snooth User: hoopssnow
    1511940 50

    Thats brilliant...

    Jun 12, 2014 at 1:47 AM


  • Snooth User: hoopssnow
    1511940 50

    Thats calme

    Jun 12, 2014 at 2:03 AM


  • Snooth User: baronto
    1511972 32

    Its ideal :)

    Jun 12, 2014 at 2:09 AM


  • Snooth User: baronto
    1511972 32

    Genius.

    Jun 12, 2014 at 2:10 AM


  • Its outstanding

    Jun 13, 2014 at 12:29 AM



  • Thats beneficial

    Jun 13, 2014 at 12:29 AM


  • Snooth User: lackriding
    1512506 63

    Thats interesting...

    Jun 16, 2014 at 12:17 AM


  • Snooth User: lackriding
    1512506 63

    Breathtaking...!!

    Jun 16, 2014 at 12:18 AM



  • Thats beneficial

    Feb 16, 2015 at 4:06 AM


  • Thats useful...

    Feb 16, 2015 at 4:06 AM


  • Snooth User: Norba
    1480200 13

    Well, straight to the point. It is not difficult to get these wines at all in Brazil.
    I have managed to buy at least three of them.
    For those who believe the wine is not only about drinking "per se", I suggest you
    get to http://www.vigno.org/carignan/ and read it through .
    The initiative is interesting and should be copíed by producers all around.
    The respect to the "terroir" , to a grape, to a region history, is going to catch those of you who drink wine with its circunstance. You definitely can find better wines, but knowing what is behind its making will enhance your pleasure Iam sure

    Apr 14, 2015 at 2:39 PM


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