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Greg, Thanks for the recommendations. I assume the no mas per favor wines are not recommended. I think you should provide the reasons why. It would be good for us as well as the producers involved to hear your criticisms. Wine is very subjective. Who would think anyone would enjoy sipping something that tasted of leather, mold, earth, clay, gasoline, turpentine, tar, etc. to name some of the descriptions used in describing various wines.
Dec 08, 2011 at 9:32 AM
Dal Piaz
Thanks for the suggestions and kind words.
Yup, no mas por favor are the wines tasted that didn't make the cut.
If you click through to any of their detail pages you'll see my note for that wine. Some will certainly appeal to others palate more than they appealed to my own.
You are so right about wine being subjective, and why on earth would I want to drink a glass of leather, mushroom and tar?! It's funny how we describe wine sometimes. I do my best at trying to describe the wines with adjectives that we might agree on and also add some color commentary to help illustrate what I've liked and disliked.
Here's the review for the Coppola for example
Peaches and cream, apples with some spice tones and honey all comes together on the appetizing nose. This is a touch sweet on entry without sufficient acidity to brighten the palate so this remains a bit sweet right through the modest finish. Don't get me wrong, there is some acid here, and the flavors of apples, honey, and pineapple are attractive, it's just that this has no definition in the mouth and limps to a modest finish. 83pts
Dec 08, 2011 at 9:55 AM
er
I too think it would be good for you to list those wines you think were “crap”. Why only list those that you like? Reviews should be balanced with both.
Dec 09, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Dal Piaz
You mean like I do with the slide labeled No Mas Por Favor?
Dec 09, 2011 at 12:56 PM
er
No, I was referring to the under $10 wines you referred to as being “sad”. I ask because when we got into wine it was at the lower price point ($5 to $10). This was partly due to economics and partly because we didn’t know anything about wine, so we were not inclined to buy $15 bottle of wine for Wednesday chicken. As we drink more wine we find ourselves moving away from the lower price points and I am curious if it is because we have developed greater appreciation for wine or if those wines, (such as Yellowtail) are just not as good as they once were. Or in other words, it is good to compare our taste to those who do it for a living.
BTW - I agree your picks of Wente and Rodney Strong. The others I haven't tried but will.
Dec 09, 2011 at 2:06 PM
Dal Piaz
I used a different title there, "Please use the clear bags" for wines that I don't recommend.
It's a tough call with those wines. Some folks obviously like them, they're just not for me, though some are awful. I've included my reviews on each wine's detail page for those folks interested in knowing what I thought.
Just because I do this for a living doesn't mean much in all honesty. Well, that is nor entirely true. The facts are that truly great wines are expensive and rare, even I get to rarely try them. If we use those wines as a benchmark and hold all wine up to that benchmark we're all screwed.
Every professional wine writer has a palate just like any drinker, though with a greater experience. You really have to find out what they are trying to do with their reviews. A lot of writers want attention, which both very high and very low scores generate.
What I try to do when I review a wine is figure out how good it is for the style the producer is aiming for. A $40 Chardonnay is way different than an $8 one, and to use some rigid scale to assess both simply misses the point. It's as if one compared a minivan with a sports car and dismissed the mini-van as not sporty enough.
The bottom line is trust your palate. You've enjoyed 2 wines that I've recommended here, check out the reviews and see if you liked them for the same reasons as I did. If so, we've got something to build on and you might be able to use my reviews for recommendations.
And people's palates generally do evolve away from sweeter, more fruit driven wines such as Yellowtail to other styles, even if those other styles aren't necessarily more expensive!
Dec 09, 2011 at 2:46 PM
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